RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
August 21, 2019 at 6:08 am
(August 21, 2019 at 12:45 am)ronedee Wrote:(August 20, 2019 at 12:47 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
Hello rondee!
Sorry for lack of direct quote.
I find compiling mutiple replies/quotes together due to how this forum works makes things hard to read.
Well.... with theism in general I just don't see anything to indicate any dieties exist/are about.
Is all.
Nothing against the Christian faith in particular. Though the actions of certain individuals are certainly heinous.
Cheers.
Not a problem. I'm not a quote dissector. I just enjoy a spirited exchange about the supernatural aspects of religion!
I firmly believe that any understanding at all in a deity, starts with a search of ones own experiences in life. A desire to find
an answer begins with a burning question. And therein lies the issue with atheists. For them, there is really no desire to generate
a search for a deity. Quite the opposite. And without hard facts and evidence? It's open season on any person of "faith". It's
a lot easier to shoot us down, then to believe any personal experiences of our own. And personally, I don't really blame anyone
here for that. I would probably do the same if I were in your(atheists in general) shoes too!
But, (and I've had this argument here, before) I would still be the same person IF I were on the other side of the tracks. Maybe not
in a deep spiritual sense. But certainly as a detective, in my search for truth and knowledge. I like to hear all sides of an issue, and make
informed decisions "for" or "against" my own experiences and understandings. It makes me more complete as a person who likes to
debate the issues.
"Faith" is a hard thing to explain, and to argue for! Extremely hard. But also, it's what our religion is based on. And the only way to attain
faith is to go down that path. And not just over the threshold, but deep into the recesses and fabric of it. And that "aint happening" for
the average atheist. Nope. So, there will always be a divide on thought and reasoning between the two sides.
The only "hope" we have is to form an understanding, and tolerance for each other based on a "wider" Truth of our common experiences.
And that 'can' lead to friendship as long as the lines don't get drawn for some outside reason. R
I really can't see myself having a 'tolerance' for religion until and unless it rejects slavery. Since that's not going to happen anything soon, the best you can hope for is a sort of bemused indifference.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax