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RE: Over the top

August 22, 2019 at 1:11 am

@Belaqua:
The quote is about Christianity, and implicitly about how it started out. You could have a "clean" version of Christianity without the whole human nature is bad thing, but it would still be based on a Christianity that was about that thing.

Furthermore, there's context. The guy who said that quote was responding to a Catholic person who was going on about how sinful we are, how there's no such thing as a good Christian. And this is a Catholic saying this, not a Calvinist or a Protestant of some other type.

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RE: Over the top - by Amarok - August 16, 2019 at 7:02 pm

RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 16, 2019 at 7:07 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 7:15 pm

RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 17, 2019 at 1:28 am

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RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 7:21 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 17, 2019 at 7:26 am

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RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 17, 2019 at 2:01 pm

RE: Over the top - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 17, 2019 at 8:09 am

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:37 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 18, 2019 at 8:57 am

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 6:51 pm

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RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:00 pm

RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 18, 2019 at 8:19 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:24 pm

RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 19, 2019 at 8:04 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 20, 2019 at 1:14 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 20, 2019 at 9:51 am

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 18, 2019 at 9:48 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 10:03 pm

RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 19, 2019 at 6:36 am

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RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 25, 2019 at 8:01 pm

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RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 25, 2019 at 8:39 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 9:08 pm

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RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 25, 2019 at 10:48 pm

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 11:18 pm

RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2019 at 12:33 am

RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 26, 2019 at 1:25 am

RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 26, 2019 at 4:25 am

RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 26, 2019 at 6:31 am

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