[Serious] Over the top

[Athene]

Well the crux of Christianity IS that all humans are BORN dirty and wrong, somehow. Unclean and deserving of eternal torment by virtue of simply being, irrespective of their acts.

That could definitely be interpreted as misanthropic don't you think? Lol

That's not a characterization that all Christians would agree with, but I see what you mean.

Well, it doesn't really matter if a 4 out of 5 hippy, cafeteria Christians don't agree. Mankind being inherently sinful, and thus requiring salvation in to avoid eternal torment for simply being born human IS a core tenet of Christianity. 

Athene wrote:

I mean, sure the story goes that God loved us so much that he was willing to have his Son murdered just so he tolerate looking at our our fugly, sinful mugs...But that still doesn't change the fact that the Yahweh character does indeed regard humans to be utter fucking garbage no matter what they actually do, until they ADMIT IT.

Again, you're describing YOUR view of Christian theology.

Again, I think that's an unpleasant, yet remarkably accurate description of the Christianity's core tenets.
Agree to disagree, I suppose.

But let's take your description here as true: it still leaves things a little ambiguous. It seems to be saying that while Christians inherently and essentially view people as bad, nonetheless they think it is inherently and essentially good to save them. Is that hating people (misanthropic) or loving people despite all their flaws? 

Um...I'm gonna go with Hates People, Yet is Pretty Fucking Psyched at the Thought of Receiving Praises and Glory for All of Eternity for $500, Alex.

(Misanthropy is defined as a dislike of people, not a judgment that they are bad and could be better. The first is a matter of taste, the second is pretty undeniable. If you like -- even love -- people while admitting they are bad and could be better, I don't think that qualifies as misanthropic. 

I understand the definition of misanthopy just fine, thank you. I have for years. Your reframing God's blanket disdain for mankind as a simple judgment that they "could be better" sounds like some pretty desperate phenagling when considering that the Yawweh character adamantly refuses to take acts or individual moral compasses into account. His only standard is for you to ADMIT that you, as his alleged creation, SUCK and to apologize for it...and give props to his kid.

If that sounds like love to you then I don't know what to tell you other than "Good luck" at life. Especially in the romance department.

I mean, think about your own taste -- you strike me as someone who would be bored by someone who is always good, and someone who likes people who are a mix of good and bad. But please correct me if I'm wrong about that.)

Wait....Are you suggesting that Biblical God possesses the attributes of a wild, immature, woman-child? That he likes a little Bad Boy in his flock just for the excitement? LMFAO

And for the record, you've got me pegged wrong.