(August 22, 2019 at 6:24 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(August 22, 2019 at 6:18 pm)Grandizer Wrote: On the other hand, some of us used to be Christians, Belaqua, and serious ones at that. We had not just what we knew regarding the doctrines, but also how we felt about them. Human nature being bad was always meant to be taken in a shameful manner, even if balanced by the "good news" that we can still be cleansed through the blood of Jesus. We could do nothing of our own merits to please God.
Your personal experiences in church may not reflect the entirety of Christianity.
Not fringe or nonconventional Christian views, sure. But if mainstream Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants in general believe this and it's on the basis of what the scriptures say, then quote ends up being reasonable not over the top. A statement does not have to be absolutely unconditionally true in all respects in order to be generally true.