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[Serious] Over the top
RE: Over the top
(August 25, 2019 at 8:19 pm)Belaqua Wrote:
(August 25, 2019 at 8:01 pm)Athene Wrote: And what's objectively "true" is that god belief, particularly Christianity, is fucking beautiful....and Belaqua wants everyone to STOP asserting that it's not.
Because we're lying, lying, lying and he won't tolerate it.

But he's no theist or apologist, y'all...Oh, no. 

He just likes pretty things. Wink

I've never said it's objectively true that "god belief" is beautiful. I've never said that Christianity is particularly beautiful -- where I live most people are Pure Land Buddhist. I have never said that people should stop asserting anything. 

Lol...liar.

Tbh, your little campaign reads a lot like the bullshit "soft" conversion tactics that I've read about before:

Quote:https://www.wordonfire.org/resources/blo...ve-in-god/
As a student of atheist conversions, I don’t think I can overstate the importance of beauty. Beauty is probably the closest thing to the spiritual experienced by a lifelong atheist. At the same time, beauty rarely carries any dogmatic baggage. And even when it does, the dogmatic element speaks for itself with no need for persuasion or even articulation. Beauty is, therefore, both a window into authentic religious life and a non-threatening invitation into it. I remember reading the account of an atheist journalist who walked into an Orthodox church in Moscow and was brought to the brink of belief by the beauty of the liturgy and the smell of incense. Despite my attempts at trying to recreate history through Google searches, I could not locate who this was or from what publication. But it’s burned into my mind as a powerful testament to the power of beauty. Without any words or analytical thoughts, a solidly secular atheist came within an inch of believing in God solely through an encounter with the beautiful. That’s powerful. And it’s a sentiment echoed in atheist conversions all over the place, including the stories of C.S. Lewis, and countless others.

When using this tactic, the apologist is instructed to avoid negative associations and making overt attempts at conversion, and simply focus on the beauty of religion in order to foster non-believers' sense of "transcendence".
What you're attempting to do here on AF is nothing new, dude.
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Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 6:59 pm
RE: Over the top - by Amarok - August 16, 2019 at 7:02 pm
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 16, 2019 at 7:07 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 7:15 pm
RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 17, 2019 at 1:28 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 1:41 am
RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 17, 2019 at 6:42 am
RE: Over the top - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 17, 2019 at 7:17 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 7:21 am
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 17, 2019 at 7:26 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 7:33 am
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 17, 2019 at 7:42 am
RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 17, 2019 at 2:01 pm
RE: Over the top - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 17, 2019 at 8:09 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:37 am
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 18, 2019 at 8:57 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 6:51 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 18, 2019 at 7:51 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 18, 2019 at 8:19 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 8:24 pm
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 19, 2019 at 8:04 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 20, 2019 at 1:14 am
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 20, 2019 at 9:51 am
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 18, 2019 at 9:48 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 18, 2019 at 10:03 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 19, 2019 at 6:36 am
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 18, 2019 at 7:30 pm
RE: Over the top - by onlinebiker - August 16, 2019 at 7:18 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 16, 2019 at 8:23 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 8:44 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 16, 2019 at 8:57 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 9:00 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 16, 2019 at 9:10 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 9:20 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 16, 2019 at 9:30 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 9:56 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 16, 2019 at 10:14 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 10:59 pm
RE: Over the top - by Pat Mustard - August 19, 2019 at 3:22 pm
RE: Over the top - by Shell B - August 16, 2019 at 8:33 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 8:46 pm
RE: Over the top - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 16, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 8:53 pm
RE: Over the top - by Shell B - August 16, 2019 at 10:01 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 10:08 pm
RE: Over the top - by Shell B - August 16, 2019 at 10:26 pm
RE: Over the top - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 16, 2019 at 8:44 pm
RE: Over the top - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 16, 2019 at 8:59 pm
RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 16, 2019 at 11:26 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 16, 2019 at 11:39 pm
RE: Over the top - by Little lunch - August 17, 2019 at 4:56 am
RE: Over the top - by Silver - August 17, 2019 at 12:24 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 12:31 am
RE: Over the top - by Silver - August 17, 2019 at 12:37 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 12:45 am
RE: Over the top - by Silver - August 17, 2019 at 12:54 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 17, 2019 at 1:01 am
RE: Over the top - by Mister Agenda - August 20, 2019 at 9:59 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 20, 2019 at 6:50 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 21, 2019 at 10:09 am
RE: Over the top - by Little lunch - August 21, 2019 at 5:16 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 21, 2019 at 6:14 am
RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 21, 2019 at 6:55 am
RE: Over the top - by Mister Agenda - August 21, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 21, 2019 at 6:26 pm
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 21, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 21, 2019 at 7:54 pm
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 21, 2019 at 8:08 pm
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 21, 2019 at 4:07 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 21, 2019 at 11:52 pm
RE: Over the top - by The Valkyrie - August 22, 2019 at 12:08 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 12:25 am
RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 22, 2019 at 12:13 am
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 12:15 am
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 22, 2019 at 12:39 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 12:50 am
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 1:11 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 6:18 am
RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 22, 2019 at 1:36 am
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 22, 2019 at 2:33 am
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 12:45 am
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 1:46 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 8:59 am
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 10:17 am
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 22, 2019 at 6:54 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 7:02 am
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 22, 2019 at 9:03 am
RE: Over the top - by Shell B - August 22, 2019 at 2:19 pm
RE: Over the top - by LastPoet - August 22, 2019 at 12:59 pm
RE: Over the top - by Mister Agenda - August 22, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 5:36 pm
RE: Over the top - by LastPoet - August 23, 2019 at 8:17 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 23, 2019 at 8:29 am
RE: Over the top - by LastPoet - August 24, 2019 at 3:23 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 24, 2019 at 3:52 am
RE: Over the top - by LastPoet - August 24, 2019 at 9:34 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 24, 2019 at 5:54 pm
RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 25, 2019 at 4:50 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 5:23 am
RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 25, 2019 at 7:30 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 6:41 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 23, 2019 at 8:33 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 23, 2019 at 8:57 am
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 23, 2019 at 9:08 am
RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 23, 2019 at 4:13 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 23, 2019 at 6:51 pm
RE: Over the top - by Abaddon_ire - August 24, 2019 at 8:21 am
RE: Over the top - by Deesse23 - August 24, 2019 at 8:47 am
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 6:18 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 6:24 pm
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 6:46 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 7:15 pm
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 8:32 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 8:45 pm
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 22, 2019 at 9:37 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 9:59 pm
RE: Over the top - by Grandizer - August 23, 2019 at 4:15 pm
RE: Over the top - by brewer - August 22, 2019 at 7:29 pm
RE: Over the top - by Shell B - August 22, 2019 at 8:24 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 22, 2019 at 8:30 pm
RE: Over the top - by Mister Agenda - August 23, 2019 at 8:43 am
RE: Over the top - by Acrobat - August 23, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 25, 2019 at 8:01 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 8:19 pm
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 25, 2019 at 8:39 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 25, 2019 at 10:20 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 10:41 pm
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 25, 2019 at 10:48 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 25, 2019 at 11:18 pm
RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2019 at 12:33 am
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 26, 2019 at 1:25 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 26, 2019 at 4:25 am
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 26, 2019 at 6:31 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 26, 2019 at 6:39 am
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 26, 2019 at 1:45 pm
RE: Over the top - by Acrobat - August 27, 2019 at 11:18 am
RE: Over the top - by Fake Messiah - August 27, 2019 at 2:02 pm
RE: Over the top - by Acrobat - August 27, 2019 at 2:31 pm
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 27, 2019 at 5:01 pm
RE: Over the top - by Athene - August 27, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Over the top - by LadyForCamus - August 27, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Over the top - by Belacqua - August 27, 2019 at 8:22 pm
RE: Over the top - by Haipule - August 27, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: Over the top - by mordant - August 28, 2019 at 9:02 pm
RE: Over the top - by Haipule - August 28, 2019 at 10:35 pm

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