(August 20, 2019 at 3:31 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(August 19, 2019 at 9:07 am)Drich Wrote: those are not prayers.
Jesus Christ gave the one and only example of a christian prayer. if it does not follow the out line he gave it is known as a petition. God is not obligated to petitions as he has promised to answer prayers. While all prayers are answered petitions are answered based on his time table and predetermined will.
Why do Christians petition God? because somethings are there for the asking.
Then "prayer" according to you consists of only one prayer and is thus useless for anything. Just mindless repetition of useless formulaic words that have become so automatic that they have lost all meaning.
And of course, you took that from your magic book out of context. When asked in said stupid book, jesus provided an illustrative example, not a proscriptive instruction. You are so dense you can't grok that.
ah, no.
the prayer offer by Jesus is a out line that has the person praying seeking change and discovery of God and his will for them. The reveal of God or the appearance of God in a life of a believer via the holy Spirit changes everything.
This is what we are to pray for.
