RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 7, 2019 at 12:21 pm
(September 7, 2019 at 7:49 am)Jehanne Wrote: I do not know where Richard Carrier is getting his money these days; to my knowledge, he never secured a teaching position at any of the 3K+ colleges across North America. He is kind of like a medical school graduate who never became a doctor, but instead, decided to drive a taxi for a living.
Hey you know how it is: to work for university that examines New Testament historicity you usually must acknowledge that Jesus was a historical person or you lose your job. For instance Paulogia spoke and showed recently how university for which William Lane Craig works demands you first sign a paper that you believe how Jesus resurrected and that Bible is inerrant
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Look at the video it is shortly after 19.00
https://youtu.be/z2XByuP8Gsc
(September 7, 2019 at 7:49 am)Jehanne Wrote: the historical record
But what historical record? Bible?
(September 7, 2019 at 7:49 am)Jehanne Wrote: Jesus was a Jewish, apocalyptic prophet
But why focus on Jesus being apocalyptic prophet? Why not Violent Zealot Revolutionary? I mean this is what Reza Aslan and few other claim. You know a political messiah, inciting a revolt against the Romans, like Theudas or “the Egyptian,” the unnamed Messianic figure Josephus describes, or the two “robbers” crucified with Jesus (since rebel bandits were commonly referred to as robbers). Are you saying you know more than Reza Aslan?
Or why not see him as a Nonviolent Pacifist Resister? As Bruce Malina and others have argued, Jesus isn’t called the Prince of Peace for nothing. Are you saying you know more than Bruce Malina?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"