Yes, Kids - ANOTHER Gun Thread

[EgoDeath]

Owning a gun is a right in the United States.

Owning it in NZ may be considered a privilege,  and that's fine.

Still, criminals don't care if guns are illegal. If it does good, then great for NZ. Couldn't say I care a whole lot, honestly.

 It is a myth that firearms are stolen from your home or from a shop as a majority that lead to a crime. The truth is most firearm violence starts with a LEGALLY  purchased firearm. It is possible to LEGALLY purchase a firearm then go on to commit a crime after that legal buy. And that is where most crime happens.

Well, that's not exactly true. A study done by the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research which surveyed prison inmates convicted of gun crimes found that:

In the 13 states with the fewest restrictions on gun ownership, 40 percent of inmates illegally obtained the gun they used, Webster said. Only about 13 percent purchased the gun from a store or pawn shop.

In the other 37 states, about 60 percent of inmates had obtained their guns illegally. Not to mention, I actually ran in the streets for a lot of years. The guys I knew weren't worried about going to the local gun shop and passing the NICS background check. Guns were not, and still are not, hard to find on the street (this is part of why we need better gun control, though I'd argue that most of these illegal guns are coming from out of state or from clandestine manufacturers). This is, of course, purely anecdotal, but I think it's worth mentioning.

So, what you're saying is debatable, at the very least. The study did find, however, that stricter gun laws would have prohibited some individuals from being able to own guns in those states where gun laws were considered "looser."

However, that's not really the point. You're preaching to the choir here; we need better gun control in the US. Go argue with someone who actually disagrees with you Brian. Saying that this is a trend with you would be an understatement.