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The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
(September 21, 2019 at 7:31 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(September 21, 2019 at 6:41 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: What him?  The search for the historical paul dead-ended a long time ago.  What is meant, by "authentic", is simply that we think a singular person wrote them, not that this person was paul, whoever paul was.

The name "Paul" is in these "authentic epistles". These epistles are considered "authentic" when it has been determined that they were written by the original "Paul", not some later authors pretending their letters were written ages ago by the original "Paul".

No. What was determined was that (depending on whether you accept Philemon as "authentic") either six or seven of the epistles were written by the same person in the same style, claiming to be the Apostle Paul, formerly Saul of Tarsus. The others were not written in the same way (vocabulary, structure, sentence length, etc).

Even the "authentic" letters are widely regarded as a mash-up of shorter letters, the identity of the original recipients they were addressed to being long since lost. People did not write such stem-winding letters and it is likely that some admirer collected the alleged Paul's "best hits" and inartfully organized them together.

I'm not saying they weren't written by THAT Paul, but only that we don't know enough to say that it's proven. It's more accurate to say that the corpus of canonical writings traditionally attributed to Paul has been shown to not be written in the same style by the same person and we've identified a subset that DO look like they have a common author, and that author DOES claim to be Paul.
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!! - by mordant - September 23, 2019 at 3:39 pm

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