(October 21, 2019 at 1:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I regard it as poison because of O'Keefe's known and confessed history of heavily editing video and audio so what people said is taken out of context.
This was proved and admitted to by O'Keefe in the ACORN and NPR fiascos (the former of which cost him $100 000 dollars). He is a lying, libelous scumbag. Ask yourself: If you knew someone who lied to you every single time you spoke to them, would you be closed minded if you opted to not take them seriously in future? This is exactly the case with O'Keefe. If you put any credence in anything he has to say, you're a bigger waterhead than I took you for.
wow. it's like the sound of a big empty vault door slamming shut and the gears of the lock cinching it all down air tight.. (your mind closing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RfxS5Om3Yk
The video is the video and one could claim the narrative may be eschewed a bit.. The problem with that is the other interviews people who work there also gave of zucker's commandments on how trump was to be covered. then you have zucker himself telling people to ignore the then released tape and just continue the trump coverage as usual.
Meaning you have people within the tape creating or reciting the zucker narritive then you hear it from him yourself.
Which is why yu no doubt move to dismiss the tape because you branded it an okeefe production. Sorry sport a true open and honest intellect examines all information before making a decision. only the weak minded need to close their minds to any evidence they personal do not like!
Quote:the witness per the Dim's is not needed.
Why? because the report the whistleblower made about the phone call between trump and the president of ukraine was said to have ahad quid pro quoe information the call did not have IE trump said he wanted ukraine to investigate possible illegal dealings biden had in their country or he would cut a billion dollars in funding.
The transcripts of the phone call where released (I read them) and nothing of the sort ever panned out!
Quote:It doesn't matter if it 'panned out'. Trump simply asking for help in a domestic election is illegal.Panning out is the whole point! meaning if the president of the ukrain never felt the need or the obligation to follow or comply with trump then there was never a real demand IE no quid pro quoe.
Quote:And are you sure you read the right transcript? Here's what was said:Ah, no douche.. This all pertains to corruption in the crowdstrike corporation a cyber security corporation wh where doing illegal things in the ukraine.
Zelensky: We. are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. specifically we ar·e almost. ready to buy more Javelins from ·_ the United· States for defense purposes ..
Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though
That is the very definition of 'quid pro quo'. Trump is making the sale US weapons to Ukraine conditional on 'do us a favor'. If you can't see that, your reading comprehension is as bad as your spelling.
then Zelensky assured trump that corruptions on those very high levels where being stomped out..
THEN hunter biden comes up and the special prosecutor Joe Biden demanded they fire or be left out of 1 billion dollar aid deal! The issue was focoused on this corrupt prosecutor Joe 30330 put into power. This is trump telling zelensky that the united states is no longer requiring his corrupt prosecutor Joe put into place to remain in power. Then zelensky assured trump that his own guy would go back into office.
No quid pro quoe.
It started with trump asking for a favor to ensure corruption/their swamp was drained. Zelensky confirmed, and then asked us for intelligence! Zelensky ask for our info and he/zelensky promised to look into everything
Quote:Matter of fact the only person holding back aid or ever threatened to was BIDEN HIMSELF! in that there was a prosecutor that was investigating him and his son for shady dealings in the ukraine and biden is recorded bragging about the fact that he told the president of the ukraine to fire the special prosecutor looking into him and his son or they would cut 1 billion dollars from special aid going to the urain!
Here is your quid pro quoe! just wrong man. Everything trump is being accused of here in the way of impeachment Biden himself has already done!
Quote:Neither Hunter nor Joe Biden were EVER under investigation by the Ukraine prosecutor.That's BS.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-...ned-2019-9
Quote:There was an investigation of Burisma's president for money laundering, but that investigation had been dormant for two years before Shokin was fired. He was fired because he wasn't investigating corruption, not to stop him from investigating Burisma (because he wasn't doing that anyway).who do you think hunter biden worked for overthere? with no experience in Gas, trade the ukraine or anything having to do with any of it but yet pulls out a multi million dollars deal for himself?
An investigation into Burisma would have revealed shake down money biden got through his son's involvement.
Quote:Yes, Biden told Ukraine they wouldn't get the money if Shokin wasn't dismissed, but that was because US, EU and IMF loans and loan guarantees were (and always had been) conditional on Ukraine addressing their corruption problem.Biden was their corruption problem, and the prosecutor was getting too close and biden flexed his muscle.
Quote: Shokin wasn't doing that - he was slow-walking, and sometimes cancelling - investigations into corrupt entities, both individuals and organizations. At NO TIME was he investigating the Bidens. If the Bidens were corrupt, and Shokin was leaving them alone (which he was), why would Biden want Shokin dismissed?For the same reason you people you claim trump's request of a Shokinesque prosecutor to replace the corrupt one biden put into place is akin to election interference!
If shokin was a corrupt lazy slug as you claim then biden and his side money venture through his son hunter and Burisma would have never come to light. but now that another crack prosecutor has been re established then all of biden's mis deeds are at risk of being brought to light!
Why else would this be a problem? If biden didn't have his hand in the cookie jar then a prosecutor will not find his finger prints in it whatsoever,so it sould not matter if trump tells zelensky it is ok to release biden's special prosecutor and put whom ever he thinks is best in place!
Even trump in the transcript admitting knowing of biden mis dealings with the gas company! How would he know otherwise? how would he know of bidens dealings unless someone was investigating him?
Quote:Where is CNN on that story? why has it played for the last 6 weeks ad nauseum?
Quote:Well, it hasn't played for six weeks, that's simply false. I've read one reply from CNN: 'No really cares about this.' I'm sure you'll have a different spin on it, but my take is that CNN shares my opinion of O'Keefe. If you don't, you've got your head so far up your arse, you can see what you had for breakfast.
Boru
the impeachment BS has played far longer than 6 weeks!
