Protests in Zagreb

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That's not what I meant. I meant to ask why you think you can have an informed opinion about Croatian historical linguistics based on the data from Wikipedia, when you realize you can't have an informed opinion about the separatist movements based on that?

Because linguistics interests me more than Croatian separatist movements.  I could have an informed opinion on these movements, but I choose not to.

Messapian was a dialect of Illyrian or, at worst, a language closely related to Illyrian. And I think Illyrian was alive at least as late as the 12th century, after the Second Slavic Palatalization ceased to operate in Croatian, but before the Havlik's Law ceased to operate in Croatian. How would you explain away the mountain names Klek and Kalnik if not as late borrowings from Illyrian, from the same root as the ancient placenames Claudius and Celenae?

I don't need to explain these away, because these aren't the topic.  And the entire Illyrian group was extinct by the 6th century, not the 12th.

Well, yes, but you can't just take what's written on Wikipedia for granted. It's a good starting point for the research about various topics, but that's all it is.

I didn't say I take Wikipedia articles for granted.  I said Wikipedia references are your friend.  You know those little blue numbers in brackets scattered throughout Wikipedia articles?  Those are links to the outside sources on which the articles are based.  You know...references.

Boru