(October 19, 2011 at 8:32 am)IATIA Wrote:So, further thwarting Rhythms flow here (is he PMing you guys to stop this?), you are suggesting that any bit that falls off or gets cut off/ out of a human is the same as a full human and should be regarded biologically as a member of the human species?(October 19, 2011 at 6:38 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Life and human life are very different considerations for us. We take life to live. To me that's justified.
And a woman, through error, is condemned to a 'prison' for 18 years. Is that life? An appendix has the same DNA as my first cell, is the removal of the appendix 'verboten'. Without the soul as a delineating factor, I see no difference.
I see a difference.
(October 19, 2011 at 8:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: Bold assertions without evidence? Frodo, we had this little court case on this side of the pondWhich has nothing to do with the point in hand. Are you too disagreeing with biologists?
The law is changeable. I know very well where the law stands on this case, and I don't have a problem with it. <--please let that have time to sink in.
But there we have the law coming down on one side of the discussion. It IS legal, therefore it's right? <---not necessarily. Many people make a living thwarting the law. The police say that they only catch the bad criminals. The law is a servant of what is right and wrong, not the other way around.
Fact remains, which you fail to address: Human life begins at conception. So says the scientific biological community.
You know better. You would force me to be silent, because just like Min, I would suggest that you are the same as "these fuckers" who wish to "inflict their fucking religion on other people"
(October 19, 2011 at 8:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: Late Edit: Look, you keep attempting to inject charged language where it obviously does not belong, which is exactly how the "pro-life" movement rolls, and don't even try to tell me that this movement isn't a religious one.The "Pro-Life Movement" is indeed a religious one. I AM NOT SUPPORTING THE PRO LIFE MOVEMENT.
(October 19, 2011 at 8:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: If you can use the terms abortion and murder interchangeably, then why not apple cake and murder?If you read above you'll see other people bringing all of that into the discussion and not me. Look at what I've written, rather than assume it's what you have imagined, and you'll see that you're badly mistaken. Don't worry, I don't expect an apology.
(October 19, 2011 at 8:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: Those designations were not coined to give weight to your argumentYou mean the Pro-Life Movement arguement.