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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 18, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Their definition has been considered and rejected. Why wasn't this the end of the entire affair?
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 18, 2011 at 9:35 pm
(October 18, 2011 at 8:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Their definition has been considered and rejected. Why wasn't this the end of the entire affair?
Because we chewed up and spit out all the xtians and we are bored.
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 18, 2011 at 10:04 pm
(October 18, 2011 at 7:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Remember, ebryo, fetus...not person. You make bold assertions with no supporting evidence R.. I check it out and I find your claim to be unfounded. Personally I'm getting sick of it.
Would you be happier if we called it a human then? The fetus or embryo being the first stages of the human life cycle? Then we're back to 'life'.
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 18, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Call it a human embryo or fetus. The best you can do there, while it is a non-viable being outside the womb, is use human as an adjective.
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 18, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Your belief gives this unborn child a soul at conception. Your values must pertain to the value of the soul and so you make no distinction between conception, embryo, fetus, etc. The problem is that as atheists we do not believe in a soul, so an unborn 'child' does not gain status as a person until birth.
The continuation of life in and of itself does not necessarily have any importance. Bacteria are killed by the billions, microscopic water creatures are killed by the millions, every time we cut down a tree or pull vegetables from the ground or fruit form the trees, kill a cow, kill a chicken, etc., we take lives on a daily basis. Nothing lives without the death of another.
I understand that food and abortion are not the same, but life is.
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 19, 2011 at 6:38 am
I'm not even going near my beliefs here IATIA. The reason I call it a human life is because biologists do: completely independantly of religion. Check that out if you don't believe me. It is scientific fact.
Life and human life are very different considerations for us. We take life to live. To me that's justified.
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 19, 2011 at 6:45 am
fr0d0 Wrote:Life and human life are very different considerations for us. We take life to live. To me that's justified.
Hello hobbit...so you agree then with abortion?? WONDERFUL!! *kisses furry forehead
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 19, 2011 at 7:29 am
Its the woman's choice, its her body and/or her will. To consider that would be best to have a child born into an adversive environment just for the sanctity of life is ignoring what life really is. The option should always be there for the woman, and her and only her knows what to do. And like most of the time, George Carlin is on the spot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 19, 2011 at 7:55 am
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RE: Abortion: Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
October 19, 2011 at 8:22 am
"If abortion is murder, miscarriage is involuntary manslaughter."
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