RE: Why are you an Atheist?
December 21, 2019 at 2:28 pm
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2019 at 2:28 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 18, 2019 at 10:30 pm)maxolla Wrote: So, I think there is some agreement on why we seek to communicate with other people regarding their beliefs. I would say that more questions are necessary.
What would convince you with out a shadow of a doubt that God does exist? What specifically would be necessary for that belief to become absolutely truth for you?
Kind of late replying...
Yes, more questions (and answers) are necessary.
I am not sure what would convince me a god or gods exists. It would depend on the description of the god under question.
Just to put this into context, it is often the case, that the type of evidence that ends up proving a proposition, is unknown before it is discovered. For example, before the microscope was invented, followed by the discovery of bacteria in 1676, how would we have known that there is evidence that bacteria were responsible for most disease?
But if a god does exist, and it is one of the gods described by theists as one who allegedly wants me to know it exists, then it should know what it would take to convince me. If said god continues to play the longest game of hide and seek in history with those of us that are not gullible, how is that my fault?
All I know, is if this god does want to be known, it seems like all its earthly representatives and apologists have done a horrible job demonstrating its existence.
Ancient texts, personal testimony, miracle claims, healings, etc, do not hold up to scrutiny. The philosophical arguments: Kalam, teleological & design, ontological, and presuppositional arguments are all fallacious. So, until such a time that theists are able to meet their burden of proof that a god exists, I will remain to be unconvinced.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.