RE: God Is Real
October 20, 2011 at 4:55 am
(This post was last modified: October 20, 2011 at 4:58 am by ElDinero.)
(October 20, 2011 at 2:31 am)KdThaKing Wrote: Well actually technically if you want to get scientific,us coming from ape is an hypothesis at best.Until you see an ape transform into a human then you cant conclude it to be a fact.
Right, you need to stop this, immediately. You have already shown that you do not understand the first thing about evolution, so why do you continue to make assertions about it? Read carefully, and stop making thick headed claims like the one above:
Evolution does not say that humans came from apes. It certainly does not say that one day an ape gave birth to a human. To suggest that this is what evolutionary theory states is simply untrue, and anyone who has told you that's the case has either been ignorant themselves or has deliberately misled you to tarnish the name of something that is as solid a scientific fact as gravity.
So let's do away with a couple of your preconceptions. The humans/apes thing. We share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. I think I'm right in saying our next closest relatives are bonobos. However, we do not 'come from' either. Both ourselves and chimpanzees are descended from a common ancestor. Several hundred thousand or million years ago, natural selection diverged among different groups of that common ancestor. Now we can speculate on why one group evolved a certain way, and the other group a different way, but for the purposes of this, it's irrelevant; the fact remains that it happened.
Dawkins explains the 'ape giving birth to a human' thing quite ably. If you look at your father, you'll see he is built in more or less the same way as you, save his individual features. And your grandfather the same, and his father the same, and so on. But if you were able to go back along this timeline far enough, after a few thousand years if you compared this ancestor to yourself, you might notice a few changes. Maybe the jaw is more square, or the nose flatter. And if you carried on going, maybe to 30,000 years, you might find other things. The skin getting darker (since we know our species originated in Africa), more body hair. And if you kept on going, you would see figures who bore less and less resemblance to humans, eventually reaching the ancestor we share with apes. BUT, if you were to take any two consecutive figures in this long, long line, they would look identical. The point is, evolution is a slow process, much slower than its easy to get your head around.
Hope this has been helpful. You seriously need to read more about evolution before you start trying to lecture on it, though.
(October 20, 2011 at 4:43 am)KdThaKing Wrote: It is inconceivable to think that things evolve from the same DNA at a different rate of speed or evolution.Why is there so much a variety of different life?what i mean is why are there monkeys,elephants,giraffes,fish,birds,and even humans?and why do they all work together to play very important roles in each others lifes?how do trees produce oxygen and take in carbon dioxide which we produce?how is it that we need the very nutrients that are found naturally like protein etc to survive?If all DNA already had the capabilities of life in it then why do we need to sustain it outside of ourselves?why do we have to eat foods high in nutrients and meats high in proteins to survive if in fact DNA can survive on its own long enough to mutate and produce in this mass variety of internal and external embodyments?
Do you realise that there are answers to many of those questions? Fully explained, satisfactory answers? Can you honestly tell me if you have ever actually looked into these things and attempted to find the answers? Or are you just wilfully remaining ignorant?
Answer me this: If you could get the answers to those questions, would it make a difference to your belief in God? Since you're using them to 'prove' God's existence, would explaining them bring you to the conclusion that God was unnecessary? Be honest.
