RE: which version of christianity is correct?
March 9, 2020 at 7:07 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2020 at 7:09 pm by Simon Moon.)
(March 5, 2020 at 1:48 pm)Drich Wrote: the dude has nothing to go on. he speaks or gives explanation based on what he identifies as a lack of information. it's all speculation based on speculatory work of others.
This is laughable, considering you base your theistic belief off texts, written decades or more after the alleged events, by anonymous authors, that were not eyewitnesses. Your beliefs don't quite even rise to the level of speculation. Ehrman's research, is based on the same texts as you believe, plus much more.
Quote: For people who pretend to demand proof for everything, you seeming overly willing to drop this requirement if and when someone is telling you what you want to hear. Not one of his 'facts' can stand up to any serious academic scrutiny. in fact if you consider the books he dismisses/the gospel and any other writtings on christ the church retains, there is more in the way of written academic proof for christ, than supports his various speculations.
The dude is a snake oil sales man he simply knows how to package bullshit in a way you 'smart people' love to gobble down information.
That is not what is going on here, at all.
I do not demand 'proof' for any claim, just evidence, that provides warrant to support the claim. And there is no amount of textual evidence alone, that is enough (for critical and rational thinking, and correct application of skepticism) to support any supernatural claims. Including: zombies rising from their graves and entering Jerusalem, people living in fish for several days, talking serpents, demons living in pigs, etc, etc,
The fact that you are convinced that texts that have stories about these, are relating true events, doesn't say anything about Ehrman being a snake oil salesman, it speaks to your gullibility. Your standards of evidence is lower for your chosen theology, than it is for other supernatural claims.
The existence of an itinerant, messianic rabbi named Yeshua, existing in 1st century Palestine, is a perfectly acceptable position, and one that Ehrman supports. He agrees with all the scholarship with regards to this position. He is not outside the mainstream scholarship on this at all. It's the supernatural claims where he happens not to be as credulous and gullible as you are.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.