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Here is why you should believe in God.
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RE: Here is why you should believe in God.
(April 5, 2020 at 9:33 am)Klorophyll Wrote:
(April 5, 2020 at 8:12 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, the anthropomorphic principle is tautologically true.  That's why empty headed wonder about the sheer fact of your existence lacks the inferential value required to persuasively argue for a god. 

Inference is perfectly reasonable, pal. This inferential value is exactly what we're justified to have because it works in every corner of our universe. Every complex machine or building observable is necessarily manufactured, why are you making biological creatures an exception? Just because we -maybe- know better how they evolved isn't a substitute for a first manufacturer. It's like saying the Windows operating system has no programmers because apparently users' feedbacks and constant updates brought us all the way to Windows 10.
OFC inference is reasonable.  No one is arguing that point, lol?  

I don't even know why you're bitching about biology, here.  The point of the principle being tautologically true..as you sought to "correct" me, is that -no matter- how we got here, our being here necessitates the requirements of our existence being met.  Our sheer existence is incapable of certifying any particular way that we got here.  

That is the specific inference that is not reasonable, upon which this particular non reason of yours rests.  


Quote:And these requirements are best explained by a supernatural creature to be realised, how hard can that be? Are you really saying here the fine tuning of our universe has zero argumentative value for you?
I'm informing you that it has zero argumentative value for you......

It may in fact be that because of this you believe in a god (it isn't, Im just being nice - somebody told you that a magic book was true and you went with it, that's why you believe, lol)- but that would not be a good reason, and that's what you claimed to have.

Quote:I think you're not addressing the arguments I'm making. It's about time you acknoweldge a first cause, or a cause at least, to this universe.
Why, you're telling me you have good reasons that I should believe in a god, not that you have good reasons to think that this universe has a cause.  I think that too, and have actual good reasons to think so....none of which involve or require a god of any kind.

You have been made to fit the universe, not the other way around. You find yourself in a position that many before you have been in, as the proverbial puddle of water exclaiming that the hole is just the right size for you. Amazing! Djinn must have done it.

It's time to shit or get off the pot with those good reasons, Kloro. It's fine if you don't have them - they're not requirements of belief...obviously...but assuming that there is a god and that there are good reasons, why not step down off the soapbox and let someone who does possess them get to the important work of spreading them? All that you seem to have is counterproductive noise.
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Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 26, 2020 at 1:48 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 26, 2020 at 1:57 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 9:08 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - March 26, 2020 at 1:59 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by brewer - March 26, 2020 at 2:11 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 26, 2020 at 5:21 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Brian37 - March 26, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by chimp3 - March 26, 2020 at 4:51 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by GUBU - March 26, 2020 at 6:42 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by ignoramus - March 26, 2020 at 7:00 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 26, 2020 at 7:18 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 7:46 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by GUBU - March 28, 2020 at 12:39 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 10:48 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 11:15 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 11:54 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 1:59 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 2:41 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - April 1, 2020 at 4:27 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 4:30 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Gwaithmir - March 27, 2020 at 11:18 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Duty - March 27, 2020 at 11:40 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Cecelia - March 27, 2020 at 12:16 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - March 27, 2020 at 12:57 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Rahn127 - March 29, 2020 at 1:27 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Gwaithmir - March 29, 2020 at 6:42 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 3:38 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 4:24 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 5:26 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 1, 2020 at 7:45 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 4, 2020 at 5:33 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 4, 2020 at 8:10 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by GUBU - April 5, 2020 at 8:12 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - April 2, 2020 at 11:51 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by Grandizer - April 2, 2020 at 11:14 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 4, 2020 at 7:27 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - April 4, 2020 at 11:55 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 5, 2020 at 9:33 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2020 at 9:46 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 5, 2020 at 10:19 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 5, 2020 at 10:51 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by no one - April 5, 2020 at 11:26 am
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 1:28 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 5:47 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 7:53 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 2:25 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 3:08 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 3:37 pm
RE: Here is why you should believe in God. - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 8:21 pm

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