(April 5, 2020 at 4:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:To my knowledge neither of us has said anything "feel good " . Overconsumption is a massive problem .But population control won't solve it. No idea how ha's "feel good"Quote:You're the band that plays on as the Titanic does it's thing.I think this is a great analogy.
I am on the titanic, and in the band, and we're playing a song called "stop, we're fucking up, there's an iceberg ahead". Whether or not the ship plows right into the iceberg is yet to be seen.
We don't act like locusts, or rodents, or a herd of deer - this was another one of malthus' fundamental misapprehensions which necessarily lead to his predictions being wrong - even within a few years of him making them.
IDK if it's really accurate to say that human nature is the problem - human nature covers alot. If it were, then it would be an unsolvable problem. I think that people working with a bad set of asserted facts in a high stakes context is more at play than anything. It's not as if people are out there deliberately trying to make life on earth more challenging for themselves. The reasons that we engage in poor ecological planning are bound up with things that any rational and empathetic person could understand. Rock and a hard place.
To use the analogy accurately
On side is saying an iceberg is about to hit the titanic and we should probably abandon ship .The other is saying the cause is too many people are on board weighing it down so we should toss them into the ocean .
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM