(April 20, 2020 at 7:43 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:(April 20, 2020 at 7:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Great positive thinking. You, "There is no fucking way we can put a metal bird in the air." Wright Brothers, "Hold my beer."
I agree we cant get off it overnight, but humans have no choice but to try.
I find this logic absurd knowing that most of our species history our species survived without combustion engines.
You can argue "will we", that is a better argument. But there are lots of things in the past humans thought impossible that we take for granted every day now.
We are not talking about quitting smoking - where you can just cut back a bit - and eventually you can do without.....
To maintain the population level at the current consumption levels - you need a certain level of input energy to do it. Without fossilized hydrocarbons or a serious investment in nuclear (and that's a pollution nightmare for hundreds of generations) we are fucked.
You are a moron if you think rooftop solar and a few windmills is going to do the job.
You simply do not understand the scale of the problem - so you just assume somebody will find "the answer".
I am not equating getting off fossil fuels like quitting smoking. Where did you get that from?
I only have this entire thread say we have to, and the sooner the better.
Humans require fuel? NO WAY!
Humans once had iron key typewriters now we have cell phones. What makes you think it is impossible to replace burning fossil fuels with clean energy?
The only thing I can agree with is the argument of "will we"? In that context global greed and big oil CEOs have been obstructing that change for over a century. But we have had solar since the 1920s. So it isn't a matter of can we, but a matter of changing minds. Either way, humans have no choice long term. It would be better to try for our species, than to give up.
I don't assume sh*t. I am merely saying humans have no choice but to try.