(May 11, 2020 at 3:00 pm)Agnostico Wrote:Um, no. Air is definitely material and physical. We can, and do, weigh it. We can liquefy it.Mister Agenda Wrote:Sigh. New flash: Atheists (and materialists) are aware that consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind, etc. exist. Do you think it's possible that you misunderstand the materialist position?
The definition of something immaterial is without physical form. That's what I learnt anyway.
Air, space, time, neither of these even come from something with a physical form
I think you are confusing 'material' with 'solid'.
Space and time are studied in physics. So they *are* considered to be 'physical'. They are even dynamical: changing because of the physics that is going on.
So, anyway, if that is what you learned, then you were taught wrong. it really is that simple. NOBODY identifies materialism as the position you describe.