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[Serious] Christians what would change your mind?
RE: Christians what would change your mind?
That belief is going to require that you twist yourself into knots over deontological and teleological failures - which is part of my objection to the belief, and is an objectionable belief itself.

It's a given that not everyone at every time sees a bad thing as bad from every angle and I would suggest that you, the witchhunter, and the crusader have directly equivalent situations in that regard.

You're of the opinion that these comments you've offered aren't explicitly relativist or subjectivist - and that's an opinion that can be wrong too, just as your belief that god is good can be wrong. I'd be interested to know whether you've ever encountered anything which challenges that belief internally. Is there (or has there been) any aspect of your beliefs and opinions about a god that causes you moral concern? An item where your beliefs and opinions about good comment on god, rather than your beliefs and opinions about god commenting on the good. An item where you have trouble believing that a good god could do, say, want, or be x - but nevertheless believe that x is true...?

These are the sorts of items that would be candidates for christian moral degeneracy in belief and in practice. You believe in christ, as an example, but do you believe that the redemptive scheme which confers the title of christ was a moral one. Would you be comfortable arranging our society to mirror the assertion that some better persons blood and death meaningfully addresses sin, or evil, or misdeed? As I've asked others so many times - would you string somebody up to cover your parking tickets?
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Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 10:12 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Silver - August 8, 2020 at 10:15 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 10:17 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 10:24 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Silver - August 8, 2020 at 10:43 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 11:32 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 8, 2020 at 12:14 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 12:30 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 8, 2020 at 1:13 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 1:26 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 8, 2020 at 2:11 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 2:37 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 8, 2020 at 2:43 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 9, 2020 at 12:18 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by no one - August 8, 2020 at 10:56 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Brian37 - August 8, 2020 at 11:29 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 11:40 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Ranjr - August 8, 2020 at 11:37 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Jehanne - August 8, 2020 at 12:11 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 12:14 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Jehanne - August 8, 2020 at 12:46 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 1:59 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 3:15 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 8, 2020 at 4:42 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 8, 2020 at 10:06 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 9, 2020 at 5:21 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 9, 2020 at 5:54 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 9, 2020 at 6:01 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 9, 2020 at 6:54 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 9, 2020 at 7:25 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Ranjr - August 8, 2020 at 3:37 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 8, 2020 at 3:51 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Ranjr - August 8, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 9, 2020 at 5:01 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Fireball - August 8, 2020 at 6:00 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Fireball - August 8, 2020 at 7:57 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Fireball - August 9, 2020 at 3:02 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 9, 2020 at 5:58 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 9, 2020 at 7:43 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 9, 2020 at 7:55 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 9, 2020 at 8:20 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Xaventis - August 9, 2020 at 8:49 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 9, 2020 at 10:45 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by no one - August 9, 2020 at 5:04 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Grandizer - August 10, 2020 at 12:39 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Grandizer - August 10, 2020 at 1:07 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Grandizer - August 10, 2020 at 2:13 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 10, 2020 at 3:28 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 10, 2020 at 7:27 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 10, 2020 at 7:58 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 10, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Silver - August 10, 2020 at 8:38 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 10, 2020 at 11:47 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Silver - August 10, 2020 at 10:37 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by tackattack - August 10, 2020 at 11:42 am
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 10, 2020 at 4:45 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Ranjr - August 10, 2020 at 1:42 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Ranjr - August 10, 2020 at 2:39 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Sal - August 10, 2020 at 2:51 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 10, 2020 at 3:38 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by brewer - August 10, 2020 at 3:54 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by tackattack - August 11, 2020 at 12:18 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2020 at 3:30 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Grandizer - August 19, 2020 at 8:13 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Grandizer - August 19, 2020 at 11:15 pm
RE: Christians what would change your mind? - by Belacqua - August 20, 2020 at 12:02 am

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