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The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
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RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it."
(September 7, 2020 at 9:12 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Brian seems to think every job should "provide a living wage". Utter and complete bullshit. If you believe it you don't understand the money concept.. 


Money is ultimately a substitute for work. (Material things need to be quantified as to the amount of work required to produce it plus availability factor (what makes gold worth more than dirt). It is just an easy way to barter for work.

Jobs that require little or no training, experience, talent, willingness to learn or physical discomfort (hard physical work. Like lifting big rocks) should NOT pay enough to cover one's basic needs.

Why not? Because - go do it all on your own. Build your own house - from scratch. Grow your own food. Dig your own well. Protect said home and food and water  from predators. 


It's a whole lot of work just for basic survival. You don't even have electricity to make it easier or internet to tell you how to do it all.

Basic survival is a shitload more work than handing someone a doughnut and saying "have a nice day."

Doorstops should come cheap.

Sure - a bunch of people working together make a job easier - but a worker is a worker and a doorstop is a doorstop. Some jobs simply do not rise to a level of difficulty that makes their execution equal to a level of basic survival.

You have to get off the couch - and work for a living to get a full handle on the concept.

An interesting, if un-empathetic, take on employment. You realize they are automating jobs away at an alarming rate right? What would you suggest when all trucking becomes automated? Or even design jobs are eliminated because an AI can produce better work at a faster rate and for free?

Me, I think the factors of production should be used to assure a living EVERYTHING (wage, housing, food, etc.) for the people in the nation. I do not believe that spontaneous charity from the wealthy will do it, I do not want to impart an onerous tax on the wealthy. I think we should do away with minimum wage, provide a universal basic income, universal healthcare. Basically fully subsidize all need within the nation and let the market figure out wants.

I forgot one, housing, if you default on life and do nothing you will be ok, because there will be government housing. Either tiny homes, or capsule hotel style.
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The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 12:40 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 3:25 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 3:38 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Sal - September 6, 2020 at 3:41 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 3:49 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 3:59 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 5:00 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 5:37 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by brewer - September 6, 2020 at 5:15 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by brewer - September 6, 2020 at 6:10 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 6:19 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 6:54 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 7:56 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by brewer - September 6, 2020 at 8:22 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by brewer - September 6, 2020 at 8:51 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 6:06 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Brian37 - September 6, 2020 at 6:36 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Grandizer - September 7, 2020 at 5:01 am
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Rhizomorph13 - September 7, 2020 at 11:43 am
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by onlinebiker - September 7, 2020 at 11:54 am
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Rhizomorph13 - September 7, 2020 at 12:36 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Sal - September 7, 2020 at 1:36 pm
RE: The dangerous fallacy of "You can do it." - by Sal - September 7, 2020 at 2:02 pm

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