(September 15, 2020 at 5:29 am)Belacqua Wrote:(September 14, 2020 at 11:22 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: things that were important to Jesus do not seem to be important to the Evangelicals.I think you're exactly right. Trump-supporting American Christians are about as far away from Christ's words as it's possible to get.
In fact I suspect it's possible to read the whole of Christian history as a tension between this worldly, selfish, money-hungry version and a red-letter version that does pretty much the opposite. (With variations according to the era, of course.) In the Middle Ages, for example, there were already strong antinomian movements that called the established church worldly and corrupt. St. Francis thought he was returning to origins. Luther thought he was doing the same. We can argue in each instance whether the reformer was really doing things Christ's way, but at the time they seemed to think so.
There was a particularly vigorous anti-establishment movement in Britain around the time of Cromwell. The Diggers, Levelers, Ranters, etc., were preaching communism, anti-royalism, and in some cases free love. They saw rank and file Anglicans in the way that you and I see modern US Evangelicals. (And I suspect they were largely right.) When the monarchy came back they mostly went underground, but survived a long time in semi-secret.
One of the frustrating things on this forum is that people often write about Christianity -- or even all of religion -- as if it was only one thing. But the fiercest criticism of hypocritical establishment Christians has come from within Christianity. Sad to say, there are probably more Falwells around today, but there were also Thomas Mertons and William Sloane Coffins. And Abiezer Coppes and William Blakes.
There is no such thing as a christ, you moron, so there is no such thing as “word of Christ‘. Not is any such thing as word a Christ would vouch for.
There is only most contemptible And unscrupulous huckster or the same kind as trump, words those hucksters find convenient to use to aggrandize themselves, and words they find convenient to use to appeal to other people’s soft spots to disguise their own motives, so they can better achieve their own objectives. That is the entire bible. That is the word of Christ.
trumpish unscrupulous bastards, and fools are are tools of those bastards, and just fools. That is the essence of Christianity, that is also why as a phenomenon Christianity Tend to finds so little to object in trump.