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Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians.

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RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians.

September 23, 2020 at 6:16 pm

(September 21, 2020 at 11:44 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Jews just say Eden was a success for both man and god, while Christians see both man and god as losers who cannot get things right.

Jews brand Eden Original Virtue, while Christians brand it Original Sin.

Christians usurped the Jewish god but scrapped the ideology.

I am no expert on Jewish theology, but I agree that "original sin" was considered a mixed blessing even by the writers. It wasn't all bad.

In the garden, Adam and Eve were like children. Taking the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil made them moral and intelligent agents. The punishment of "the fall" was to prevent mankind from being rivals to the gods themselves (yes, plural).

Its a bit of a fun fairy tale, if so much bad didn't come out of people taking it literally.

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Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 20, 2020 at 4:07 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 20, 2020 at 5:22 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 21, 2020 at 7:48 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 21, 2020 at 7:52 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 21, 2020 at 11:44 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - September 21, 2020 at 1:04 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by HappySkeptic - September 23, 2020 at 6:16 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 7:54 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 21, 2020 at 8:00 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 8:02 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 21, 2020 at 8:05 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - September 21, 2020 at 8:07 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 8:12 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - September 21, 2020 at 8:32 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 8:43 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 12:10 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 21, 2020 at 12:38 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 12:45 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 21, 2020 at 1:28 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - September 21, 2020 at 2:15 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 21, 2020 at 3:21 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 4:41 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 22, 2020 at 8:49 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2020 at 9:59 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 22, 2020 at 10:24 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2020 at 10:49 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 22, 2020 at 12:06 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 22, 2020 at 12:17 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 23, 2020 at 10:46 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2020 at 11:29 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 23, 2020 at 3:43 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Drich - September 24, 2020 at 1:18 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Drich - September 23, 2020 at 3:32 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2020 at 4:05 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 23, 2020 at 4:57 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Belacqua - September 23, 2020 at 5:12 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 23, 2020 at 5:35 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Belacqua - September 23, 2020 at 6:05 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 25, 2020 at 11:34 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Grandizer - September 24, 2020 at 9:08 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2020 at 6:01 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - September 24, 2020 at 8:06 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2020 at 8:21 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2020 at 1:26 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2020 at 12:30 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 28, 2020 at 11:35 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - September 25, 2020 at 1:04 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2020 at 11:43 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 28, 2020 at 11:52 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2020 at 12:44 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - September 29, 2020 at 11:58 am

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2020 at 1:01 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - October 6, 2020 at 2:04 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 6, 2020 at 5:43 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - October 12, 2020 at 3:13 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by runewell - October 7, 2020 at 5:48 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 7, 2020 at 6:14 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by runewell - October 7, 2020 at 6:22 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2020 at 5:02 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - October 12, 2020 at 6:34 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - October 12, 2020 at 6:01 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2020 at 6:39 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - October 19, 2020 at 2:34 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 19, 2020 at 11:17 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - October 20, 2020 at 1:02 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2020 at 1:37 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - October 20, 2020 at 2:28 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2020 at 2:36 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Greatest I am - October 20, 2020 at 3:42 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2020 at 4:08 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by Sal - October 20, 2020 at 8:31 pm

RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians. - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2020 at 9:11 pm

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