RE: BREAKING:Trump refuses to commit to a peaceful transition of power after Election Day
September 30, 2020 at 10:24 am
(September 30, 2020 at 2:03 am)Nomad Wrote:(September 25, 2020 at 11:14 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You need to do some reading.
I do a lot of reading. And the OKH didn't realise they lost until Kursk. And it was only after that that any serious opposition from within the armed forces came about.
Kursk only seemed decisive in a retrospect. At the time, kursk didn’t seem like a major diseaster, just a unfortunate operation that might have verged on success but which had to be aborted because forced were needed Elsewhere to counter Anglo-American invasions in the Mediterranean.
For a period after Kursk, from late 1943-early 1944, Germany gave up a lot of territory in the East, but was conducting a effective elastic defence, with no major soviet breakthroughs, and success in falling back on more defensible frontiers,
The German army had wanted to not fight Kursk at all, but only stood on defensive in the East in 1943. So the defensive battles after Kursk also didn’t seem to reflect a decisive turning of events by Kursk.
It was probably Stalingrad was the watershed moment for senior German officers, At Stalingrad Hitler forced a huge body of Germany troops , 300,000, to remain surrounded and die in the most miserable and hopeless circumstances for very little possible gain when military needs and German military custom demanded the 6th army break out and be saved. This broke a certain moral bond between hitler as supreme commander of the German army, and the army.
If it weren’t for Stalingrad, many German officers would probably have continued to support hitler and chalked reverses under Hitler to fortunes of war, and defended hitler’s decisions as legitimate differences in opinion regarding how the war should be conducted by a dictator who did, after all, bring Germany to the heigh of military glory not previously dreamt of.
