Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 22, 2025, 3:29 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Petition to abolish the Electoral College
#22
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College
(October 15, 2020 at 9:48 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: As someone who values what it can do, actually.  If the electoral college allows a demographic minority to pursue justice and proper legislation (as they see it, obvs), and we have a problem with a demographic majority not achieving that same justice or legislation - then retreating to social media to make the case is fucking idiotic.  

What we need is, I don't know, some mechanism for balancing what the minorities believe serves justice and proper legislation with the interests of other actors. I don't know what to call it. Let's go with "voting."

(October 15, 2020 at 9:52 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Unless it runs afoul of the will of the mob, ofc - then you (or I) shouldn't do whatever the newly empowered mob tells us not to do.

Mob psychology isn't relevant. Quit quoting propaganda and apply some reason. Neither the EC nor the popular vote are effective brakes on a misinformed or corrupt electorate.

(October 15, 2020 at 9:52 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Consider for a moment that, despite whatever statistics derived from loaded cold calls on single political issues - that the majority disagrees with you.  Imagine for a moment that you are right.  You already think as much, you don't need to imagine it (and I probably agree with you in most if not all respects).   We want to believe that the majority agrees with us because, if they didn't, that would be bad.  That's sloppy thinking, and when that sloppy thinking threatens the bulwark standing between ourselves and the mob, who may not actually be the people we fervently wish for them to be, it's a problem.  The american mob are white supremacist allies.  Full stop.

If you can't persuade others that you are right, nobody owes you a free pass to dictate your views to others. We rule by speech and voting and persuasion, not by structural gimmicks.
[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Paraselene - October 15, 2020 at 8:26 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 9:39 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 9:41 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 9:51 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 9:53 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 10:23 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Paraselene - October 15, 2020 at 10:03 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Paraselene - October 15, 2020 at 10:16 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 10:19 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 10:33 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Paraselene - October 15, 2020 at 10:22 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Paraselene - October 15, 2020 at 10:30 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Paraselene - October 15, 2020 at 10:41 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Paraselene - October 15, 2020 at 10:47 am
RE: Petition to abolish the Electoral College - by Angrboda - October 15, 2020 at 12:52 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  The Electoral College DeistPaladin 43 7342 September 21, 2020 at 8:47 pm
Last Post: Rhizomorph13
  Mob Mentality and Electoral College eliwhitneyIII 8 1480 May 11, 2019 at 1:42 pm
Last Post: LadyForCamus
  A Little Electoral Justice Minimalist 10 2753 November 10, 2017 at 2:35 am
Last Post: Amarok
  End the Electoral College? chimp3 60 14205 December 8, 2016 at 1:15 am
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  History of the electoral college READ.... Brian37 20 3925 November 15, 2016 at 3:09 pm
Last Post: Doubting Thomas
  Will the Electoral College dump Trump? Jehanne 19 4796 November 14, 2016 at 10:44 am
Last Post: Excited Penguin
  Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU robvalue 37 7797 June 25, 2016 at 1:22 pm
Last Post: Tiberius
  Dear American College students: Go to Germany TaraJo 12 5461 October 11, 2014 at 2:35 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Petition Elskidor 18 4226 July 7, 2014 at 4:28 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  is college worth it anymore nintendo048 33 7216 March 16, 2014 at 6:27 pm
Last Post: nintendo048



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)