RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 5, 2021 at 4:06 am
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2021 at 4:52 am by The Grand Nudger.)
No one has made racists terrorists under the law other than racist terrorists themselves.
Anywho, part of the rise in global extremism, is that we were operating under fanciful ideas of how to deal with it. If we just educate the iraqis, we'd say. If we'd just educate the white supremacists, we'd say. It had to be their own personal failure, you see - some defect in them that we were in no way responsible for and couldn't be held accountable for. A defect that we could fix, with love and tolerance and....education. Preferably one that we could fix quietly, without a bunch of fuss about having been complicit for so long.
The problem with terrorists from the point of view of trying to help - is that by the time you've identified it, the only way to help is with a bullet. Those people are lost, and no amount of remedial algebra or kumbaya sessions will bring them back or alter the trajectory that their life has taken - where either they..or the other guy, end up in graves. I suppose that's a rough way to look at it, but it reflects the reality of terrorism. They're not winnable hearts, insomuch as they may have had moldable minds...someone has already given them shape and then fired the clay.
Thankfully, most racists aren't as committed to their racism as a terrorist is committed to whatever cause they've found. Just lazy, frustrated, and unwilling to accept their own culpability for the abject failure of their own lives. If we made that criminal, we'd need more prisons. If terrorists keep figuring out better ways to exploit that psychology in recruitment, we'll need more bullets.
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....we've been taking advantage of lynchings as a photo op for longer than the donald has been alive. It's not on account of one man or a single generation of white supremacists that the us is being forced to take a hard look at systemic racism. It's not about him, or even them. I think that you're closer to the truth with the comment below.
If it helps, hold the us army in mind when you consider the difference between the groups. The white supremacists are at the bottom of the rung. Little to no experience, struggling to maintain the belief in the assent of society. Islamist militants, some experience - credibly believing that they have the assent of society. Army - professional death merchants. The hope, in each case, is to prevent the groups from proceeding to the place better described or occupied by the next, and in the case of professional forces...that they don't devolve into a disorganized white supremacist mob.
Anywho, part of the rise in global extremism, is that we were operating under fanciful ideas of how to deal with it. If we just educate the iraqis, we'd say. If we'd just educate the white supremacists, we'd say. It had to be their own personal failure, you see - some defect in them that we were in no way responsible for and couldn't be held accountable for. A defect that we could fix, with love and tolerance and....education. Preferably one that we could fix quietly, without a bunch of fuss about having been complicit for so long.
The problem with terrorists from the point of view of trying to help - is that by the time you've identified it, the only way to help is with a bullet. Those people are lost, and no amount of remedial algebra or kumbaya sessions will bring them back or alter the trajectory that their life has taken - where either they..or the other guy, end up in graves. I suppose that's a rough way to look at it, but it reflects the reality of terrorism. They're not winnable hearts, insomuch as they may have had moldable minds...someone has already given them shape and then fired the clay.
Thankfully, most racists aren't as committed to their racism as a terrorist is committed to whatever cause they've found. Just lazy, frustrated, and unwilling to accept their own culpability for the abject failure of their own lives. If we made that criminal, we'd need more prisons. If terrorists keep figuring out better ways to exploit that psychology in recruitment, we'll need more bullets.
(February 4, 2021 at 10:17 pm)WinterHold Wrote: BLM was the expected reaction for the terrorism of Donald Trump and his white supremacists, white racist police officers were killing black people and take selfies over their dead bodies !
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....we've been taking advantage of lynchings as a photo op for longer than the donald has been alive. It's not on account of one man or a single generation of white supremacists that the us is being forced to take a hard look at systemic racism. It's not about him, or even them. I think that you're closer to the truth with the comment below.
Quote:White supremacists are a disease just like ISIS, they are more advanced and capable too,and they showed their real intentions with the killing of Floyd + the attack on the Capitol; I also have my own grudge against these fucks after we saw them in action in the Mosque attacks in New Zealand.They're not more advanced, or more capable. Not yet anyway. They have the benefit of access and anonymity in a target rich environment. They need money and cover and practice to become more advanced, to expand their capabilities. That's what makes depriving them of funds a better tactic than directly engaging them in conflict. Ultimately, even if you beat the living shit out of them at every turn - the hardened survivors are getting the practice they need. The funding is winnowed down from a pool of unserious competitors to just those individuals and organizations that can extract maximum harm for minimum investment. To just those nuts who can hold onto the credible expectation that everyone agrees with them, or will, or will be made to..one day. True Believers, you might say. Like our boy in new zealand. Like any islamist, for that matter. If there were a hiring agency that screened these people, they'd have a profile, lol. That's where we'd start to really see the full potential of all of the unused and unexploited terror labor the world has to offer - when terror is for profit and managed by pros, rather than nuts.
If it helps, hold the us army in mind when you consider the difference between the groups. The white supremacists are at the bottom of the rung. Little to no experience, struggling to maintain the belief in the assent of society. Islamist militants, some experience - credibly believing that they have the assent of society. Army - professional death merchants. The hope, in each case, is to prevent the groups from proceeding to the place better described or occupied by the next, and in the case of professional forces...that they don't devolve into a disorganized white supremacist mob.
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