RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 9, 2021 at 10:58 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2021 at 11:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
White people are not being constantly shit on. Full stop. If you recall beginning to strongly identify as white at some point where this narrative (and so much more) was sold to you - you're neatly describing the process of radicalization. You might want to reexamine alot of positions that you began to hold at this time.
I don't think that anyone is crying out for an end to free speech, most places already have hate speech laws and ofc incitement is not a protected form of speech. The US has many problems, but no list of those problems will form an argument for poor governance in any other particular. As far as speech and extremism goes, the us is remarkably permissive. Most of your comments in this regard are a literal conspiracy theory. Of shadowy elites in the media conspiring to distract us from what our overlords may be up to at a given moment. I have to ask, what would be the point of that? We're perfectly fine cheering them on out in the open.
It's unclear how your civil liberties or my civil liberties are harmed...and indeed unclear how an extremists civil liberties are harmed, when we decide that we do not want their products in our communities. When we decide that they will not be allowed to profit off of the misery of others. When we decide that pursuant to our treaties with ally nations, some law enforcement act on their behalf triggers the relevant law in our own. Unclear, but..it is another apparently compelling plank of white supremacist ideology. Rights abrogation. Especially frozen peaches. There's no real danger that white supremacy is going to be silenced in a white majority country under majority white rule. It would be ludicrous to imagine as much before we acknowledge that white supremacy has many allies in law enforcement and government. You're listening to them go on tv to wine about being canceled. The irony there doesn't just immediately jump out at you? Is anyone handing you a mic? Are you being silenced? Are they -not- mounting a credible primary challenge to establishment republicans in elections all over the country, and are we not now being held hostage by those same people who loudly promise, while loudly complaining about being canceled, to be even worse if we don't give them what they want?
It's clear that how the US and (I suspect) Canada have handled this doesn't endanger the speech, it endangers the mortgage payments and credit ratings of extremists. It endangers their plans to use those resources to harm others. If you want some cabal of peole conspiring to shit on you and deprive you of your rights..there they are, but they're right out in the open about it. Personally, I share your misgivings about a world with less free speech - I love it when people blurt out great replacement theory as a fact. We do have to respect that a right to free speech is not the only right that our government is bound to respect or safeguard, and that no right you hold is a suicide pact with another, though...don't we?
(There's no requirement to think the way that I think just because you no longer believe in great replacement propaganda. I'm sure that there just have to be other ways to completely disagree with whatever it is you think that I think.)
I don't think that anyone is crying out for an end to free speech, most places already have hate speech laws and ofc incitement is not a protected form of speech. The US has many problems, but no list of those problems will form an argument for poor governance in any other particular. As far as speech and extremism goes, the us is remarkably permissive. Most of your comments in this regard are a literal conspiracy theory. Of shadowy elites in the media conspiring to distract us from what our overlords may be up to at a given moment. I have to ask, what would be the point of that? We're perfectly fine cheering them on out in the open.
It's unclear how your civil liberties or my civil liberties are harmed...and indeed unclear how an extremists civil liberties are harmed, when we decide that we do not want their products in our communities. When we decide that they will not be allowed to profit off of the misery of others. When we decide that pursuant to our treaties with ally nations, some law enforcement act on their behalf triggers the relevant law in our own. Unclear, but..it is another apparently compelling plank of white supremacist ideology. Rights abrogation. Especially frozen peaches. There's no real danger that white supremacy is going to be silenced in a white majority country under majority white rule. It would be ludicrous to imagine as much before we acknowledge that white supremacy has many allies in law enforcement and government. You're listening to them go on tv to wine about being canceled. The irony there doesn't just immediately jump out at you? Is anyone handing you a mic? Are you being silenced? Are they -not- mounting a credible primary challenge to establishment republicans in elections all over the country, and are we not now being held hostage by those same people who loudly promise, while loudly complaining about being canceled, to be even worse if we don't give them what they want?
It's clear that how the US and (I suspect) Canada have handled this doesn't endanger the speech, it endangers the mortgage payments and credit ratings of extremists. It endangers their plans to use those resources to harm others. If you want some cabal of peole conspiring to shit on you and deprive you of your rights..there they are, but they're right out in the open about it. Personally, I share your misgivings about a world with less free speech - I love it when people blurt out great replacement theory as a fact. We do have to respect that a right to free speech is not the only right that our government is bound to respect or safeguard, and that no right you hold is a suicide pact with another, though...don't we?
(There's no requirement to think the way that I think just because you no longer believe in great replacement propaganda. I'm sure that there just have to be other ways to completely disagree with whatever it is you think that I think.)
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