RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
February 13, 2021 at 1:53 pm
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2021 at 2:20 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Additionally, hatred - as we've seen, is violence when described in canadian jurisprudence, just as incitement here surrounds the provision of lawless action. It's not cogently possible to be for the prohibition of speech which is or is meant to incite violence, and against the prohibition of speech which incites hatred. They're part and parcel to each other in both legal systems.
Nothing in either of our systems prevent a person from expressing their views, not even those views which, if they fit the brandenburg test or canada's precedent, would be criminal. Accounts of the death of free speech have been greatly exaggerated by those who wish to clothe themselves in the language of abrogation and minority victimization in order to cast a wider net into the public while simultaneously shifting the overton window.
They've been very successful.
I do have some sympathy for a small set of people, in this - the absolute worst. Those people who so strongly believe in detestable views which are protected speech that they cannot fail to engage in criminal acts pursuant to the same. If a persons center of being is white separatism, for example - they cannot prevent themselves from pursuing it - and however we parse it for our own conscience - we've criminalized their state of being. The only reason that we don't wring our hands over this is that we maintain that being a white separatist isn't the same as having a penis, or being a particular shade of beige. Ostensibly, it's malleable. They don't have to be that way, they are that way by volition at some point - whether it is a willingness-to-be or a simple willingness to believe others lies contrary to demonstrable facts.
We'll burn that bridge with them on it whenever the extremists get there, I suppose.
Nothing in either of our systems prevent a person from expressing their views, not even those views which, if they fit the brandenburg test or canada's precedent, would be criminal. Accounts of the death of free speech have been greatly exaggerated by those who wish to clothe themselves in the language of abrogation and minority victimization in order to cast a wider net into the public while simultaneously shifting the overton window.
They've been very successful.
I do have some sympathy for a small set of people, in this - the absolute worst. Those people who so strongly believe in detestable views which are protected speech that they cannot fail to engage in criminal acts pursuant to the same. If a persons center of being is white separatism, for example - they cannot prevent themselves from pursuing it - and however we parse it for our own conscience - we've criminalized their state of being. The only reason that we don't wring our hands over this is that we maintain that being a white separatist isn't the same as having a penis, or being a particular shade of beige. Ostensibly, it's malleable. They don't have to be that way, they are that way by volition at some point - whether it is a willingness-to-be or a simple willingness to believe others lies contrary to demonstrable facts.
We'll burn that bridge with them on it whenever the extremists get there, I suppose.
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