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Faith is Feelings
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RE: Faith is Feelings
(February 21, 2021 at 7:13 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(February 19, 2021 at 12:03 pm)Five Wrote: I was thinking about it recently, trying to section out why certain people join certain religions or believe in certain Gods. And I was thinking about the personal morality people accept and define for themselves.

Why join one religion versus another? I think it's because you personally don't agree with those other religions definition of God and morality. What if they were true? Is truth only the commandments you would reasonably tolerate from a God? Even within your own accepted religion, there are things that "God" could ask you to do that you would tell him "no" instead of obeying. If God pulled an Abraham and Isaac on you, would you do as he asked and kill your child? 

 If you said "yes" to that question...that's a different discussion. But if you said no, how can faith be defined as anything other than your own subjective morality? 

Would it change things if God himself came down and told you to do stuff directly? Could you trust a supernatural being that asked you to do something that you felt was morally wrong? What proof would you need to know that this supernatural visitor was God and not something evil?
Perceiving God directly through the 5 senses would only result in a debate on the issue. 

Scenario:  If a physical entity with the appearance of personhood were to materialize on the White House lawn and while saying “I’m God” (loud enough that it was recorded) levitated a foot above the ground, would that constitute proof that God is not hidden? As the Secret Service approached, this entity asked one agent to place his hand on the entity’s shoulder which the agent did, thus making the entity disappear. Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘Yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it became, much like orange blossoms’.

So, if tangible detection is off the table, what’s left? Any other method you suggest is going to be equally debatable, no?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 19, 2021 at 12:03 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by arewethereyet - February 19, 2021 at 12:12 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by brewer - February 19, 2021 at 12:13 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 19, 2021 at 12:18 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Mercyvessel - February 19, 2021 at 4:27 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by arewethereyet - February 19, 2021 at 5:04 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Astreja - February 21, 2021 at 9:46 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Sal - February 20, 2021 at 6:50 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Brian37 - February 21, 2021 at 11:13 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by LadyForCamus - February 22, 2021 at 11:10 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by no one - February 19, 2021 at 12:26 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by onlinebiker - February 19, 2021 at 12:40 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2021 at 1:05 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by arewethereyet - February 19, 2021 at 1:20 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Brian37 - February 19, 2021 at 1:06 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 19, 2021 at 4:35 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Mercyvessel - February 19, 2021 at 4:58 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by no one - February 19, 2021 at 5:59 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Silver - February 19, 2021 at 9:36 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by The Valkyrie - February 19, 2021 at 9:41 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by AFTT47 - February 20, 2021 at 2:24 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by no one - February 19, 2021 at 9:46 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Apollo - February 20, 2021 at 5:12 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 20, 2021 at 9:00 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by purplepurpose - February 20, 2021 at 2:31 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 21, 2021 at 9:29 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Silver - February 21, 2021 at 10:12 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by arewethereyet - February 21, 2021 at 11:20 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Silver - February 21, 2021 at 11:21 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by snowtracks - February 21, 2021 at 7:13 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Angrboda - February 21, 2021 at 8:09 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by LadyForCamus - February 22, 2021 at 11:15 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Mister Agenda - February 23, 2021 at 10:24 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by Ryantology - February 27, 2021 at 10:11 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by arewethereyet - February 27, 2021 at 11:17 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 21, 2021 at 7:30 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by tackattack - February 27, 2021 at 11:55 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2021 at 8:55 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 22, 2021 at 9:56 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2021 at 11:38 am
RE: Faith is Feelings - by HappySkeptic - February 22, 2021 at 3:10 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by zwanzig - February 22, 2021 at 12:13 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2021 at 12:30 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2021 at 9:51 pm
RE: Faith is Feelings - by The Grand Nudger - February 28, 2021 at 1:47 am

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