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Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
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RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
(June 4, 2021 at 12:07 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(June 4, 2021 at 11:27 am)Astreja Wrote: This.  This x ∞.

No exceptions.  Ever.

So... 2) no rights, is the answer?

Not unless those rights can be accomplished without infringing on someone else's rights.

When it gets right down to it, the whole concept of "rights" is an abstraction that is subject to human perceptions of fairness and justice.  You may think it unjust for a woman to terminate a pregnancy, but are you properly considering the effect that bearing an unwanted child has on her rights?

And are you personally open to the possibility of taking full responsibility for the raising of that child, and also compensating the woman for the danger of continuing a pregnancy?  Would you contribute cold hard cash to support the development of an artificial womb that allowed fetuses to be incubated independently of a woman's body?  How much time and money do you currently donate to food banks, crisis shelters, affordable-housing initiatives, living wage advocacy?

Or are you just sitting there spluttering "But... but... we gotta save the babies!"  ?
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RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims - by Astreja - June 4, 2021 at 1:50 pm

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