RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
June 7, 2021 at 7:16 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2021 at 7:36 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:To the number? You mean ascribing value according to how many developments they've accumulated? If so what is your cutoff number? Presumably, most people would save an infant's life over an elderly person (making "number of developments" inversely correlated with what people value.)I specifically said type, not number. Please actually respond to my actual points. As for the elder vs infant game. I can play too. If people had the choice to sacrifice a five-minute-old fetus of a total stranger to save their 4-month-old baby. Which do you think they would choose? You see this is a bad argument.
Quote:There's nothing arbitrary about fertilization. That is when embryology marks the beginning of a new organism; that it is the process during which the full novel genome of an organism is established, and its developmental trajectory initiated. (Sperm is just one of the gametes involved in fertilization, and sex initiates the process by which gametes are brought into contact, etc.Yes, it is arbitrary there is no objective reason to value a put significance on fertilization as opposed to anything else. Simply saying "but a new organism " is no more significant than some else saying " but two people fucked " or "it now has eyes" you're simply attributing significance to it.
Quote:Sure, like I said before, I tend to dislike pro-choice arguments because they are avoidant in nature—as you just demonstrated. Abortion is defined as the termination of a pregnancy; it is the removal and expulsion of an embryo or fetus from the womb before it can survive. To say that this is all irrelevant to abortion is rather contradictory to put it respectfully.Nope, it's not avoiding it's simply not wasting time on irrelevant points or getting dragged down in pointless rabbit holes. That's the only thing I have demonstrated and there is nothing contradictory about it. Pro-choice is reasonable. Anti Choice is nothing but a parade of bad reasoning hollow appeals to science and emotionalism.And i don't mean that respectfully.
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“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM