Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 19, 2025, 6:01 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims
Quote:To the number? You mean ascribing value according to how many developments they've accumulated? If so what is your cutoff number? Presumably, most people would save an infant's life over an elderly person (making "number of developments" inversely correlated with what people value.)
I specifically said type, not number. Please actually respond to my actual points. As for the elder vs infant game. I can play too. If people had the choice to sacrifice a five-minute-old fetus of a total stranger to save their 4-month-old baby. Which do you think they would choose? You see this is a bad argument.

Quote:There's nothing arbitrary about fertilization. That is when embryology marks the beginning of a new organism; that it is the process during which the full novel genome of an organism is established, and its developmental trajectory initiated. (Sperm is just one of the gametes involved in fertilization, and sex initiates the process by which gametes are brought into contact, etc.
Yes, it is arbitrary there is no objective reason to value a put significance on fertilization as opposed to anything else. Simply saying "but a new organism " is no more significant than some else saying " but two people fucked " or "it now has eyes" you're simply attributing significance to it.



Quote:Sure, like I said before, I tend to dislike pro-choice arguments because they are avoidant in nature—as you just demonstrated. Abortion is defined as the termination of a pregnancy; it is the removal and expulsion of an embryo or fetus from the womb before it can survive. To say that this is all irrelevant to abortion is rather contradictory to put it respectfully.
Nope, it's not avoiding it's simply not wasting time on irrelevant points or getting dragged down in pointless rabbit holes. That's the only thing I have demonstrated and there is nothing contradictory about it. Pro-choice is reasonable. Anti Choice is nothing but a parade of bad reasoning hollow appeals to science and emotionalism.And i don't mean that respectfully.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims - by The Architect Of Fate - June 7, 2021 at 7:16 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  [Serious] For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith? Jehanne 159 22831 January 16, 2023 at 7:36 am
Last Post: h4ym4n
  Jerry Falwell Jnr "not a christian" and wanted to prove himself to not be like Snr Pat Mustard 18 2855 November 1, 2022 at 8:57 pm
Last Post: Silver
Rainbow Why I believe in Jesus Christ Ai Somoto 20 4038 June 30, 2021 at 4:25 pm
Last Post: Nay_Sayer
  Why is Jesus in third place when he deserves first? Greatest I am 25 6053 September 22, 2020 at 10:14 pm
Last Post: GrandizerII
  Did Mary and Joseph ever have sex? Fake Messiah 41 9750 March 18, 2020 at 8:05 pm
Last Post: Abaddon_ire
  Did Jesus ever have a perm? Cod 32 6723 April 3, 2019 at 11:03 am
Last Post: Silver
  Why did the Jews lie about Jesus? Fake Messiah 65 9209 March 28, 2019 at 5:32 pm
Last Post: Aliza
  Did Jesus decompose? Natachan 77 9900 March 26, 2019 at 8:18 pm
Last Post: fredd bear
  Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners purplepurpose 72 13399 November 19, 2018 at 4:55 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Did Jesus call the Old Testament God the Devil, a Murderer and the Father of Lies? dude1 51 11660 November 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Last Post: Angrboda



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)