(July 15, 2021 at 9:09 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(July 11, 2021 at 2:25 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Maybe if they're dumb enough to admit they're not really trans. But you do have a get out of jail free card if you're not idiotic enough to confess. Any lawyer would just tell you to say you're trans and you've been in the closet this whole time, or that when you confessed to not being trans you were just too afraid to come out at that time because of the culture you were raised in, etc, etc.
What I want to know is how likely it is that this is going to happen. Frankly, something like this is very much theoretical. I know this because I've heard loads of stories of alleged transgender assaults in women's spaces, and the remarkable thing is that I can remember exactly two cases where the perp actually claimed that they had gender issues that meant they should belong there. It's also worth nothing that in both cases, the perps had a history of child molestation. You'd think this would be a bigger red flag than a nontraditional gender identity.
Frankly, the more I look at it, it looks like the idea of becoming trans just to invade women's spaces is just an overly complicated method of getting away with sexual assault, what with it requiring a lot of time and medical intervention and having a huge social stigma (one that's getting better, but still bad enough that giving them basic human rights is a controversial hot-button issue) attached to it. And even if you do pull it off without trouble, assault (sexual or otherwise) is still illegal, so it's not like they're going to exploit a loophole by claiming to be transitioning.
You know what's simpler for someone looking to invade women's spaces and raping them? Just going in there, doing what you want to do, and hoping you stay one of the grey men in this infographic:
Admittedly, the exact numbers for each statistic are controversial, but what isn't for those who actually study sexual assault: the grey guys who never get caught are always going to outnumber the blue ones who end up on the cops' radar.
To be honest with you, I have not put a whole lot of thought into the trans in locker rooms and saunas issue. The bathroom thing was obvious from the start to me. Let them use whatever washroom they want. Would I, a grown man, go and get naked in front of women or children? No. Therefore my position was that maybe it's going a little too far to push this on women and girls so suddenly. It's not about morality for me. Like I said in another post, if society eventually becomes nudist, then so be it. That's not necessarily something I would push for, but I would not call that society immoral either.
I am open to changing my position on this, but right now, the US is in for a rough ride trying to transition to intersex locker rooms. It's not going to be a smooth transition. Are trans people really going to be safer using the women's locker rooms? I'm not sure about that. It's the law now though, and I suppose eventually people are going to just have to learn to accept it.