(November 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(November 9, 2011 at 10:11 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: If you want to play that game - where's your direct observation that anything in the Bible happened? Or anything god does?
We are not talking about the Bible, we are talking about Dinosaurs. If you are going to not believe in the Bible because of lack of direct observation then where is your direct observation of dinosaurs since you do believe in them? Fair is fair.
You made the statement equating skepticism about god with skepticism about dinosaurs. The bible has to do with things god supposedly did. I can't believe how deliberately ignorant you're being. I can directly observe the byproduct of the remains of dinosaurs. I cannot directly observe the byproduct of a divine being - unless you have something new to show me.
(November 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No usually skeptics ask for “proof” of God’s existence, which means they want a sound logical syllogism for the existence of God, I have seen no such syllogism for the existence of dinosaurs; it’s special pleading.
I asked for evidence of both, not arguments. I'm not interested in mental masturbation. I'm not making any sort of special pleading. We have evidence of dinosaurs. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE FOR GOD?
(November 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I made it very clear that this was an exercise; I was going to play the part of the skeptic and play the same games you guys play concerning the existence of God. I find it a bit amusing you thought I was stupid when I was acting like you always do. There still is no sound logical proof for the existence of dinosaurs, so why do you still believe in them?
Big. Fucking. Fossils.
(November 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Actually many secular scientists do not believe those are actual proteins because proteins cannot survive for millions of years. You are starting to sound like a young earth creationist now.
Really? Cite that.
(November 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong point gramps.
Quit projecting.
(November 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: What punishment? You guys totally got whipped on that one. You pointed to some rocks and asserted, “See these prove that dragon-like creatures ruled the earth millions of years ago! You see this 4th grade textbook agrees with me!” Where is the direct observation? Where are the logical syllogisms? You guys failed to live up to your own stink test and it was hilarious.
Where's your "direct observation" that the flood happened?
Layers upon layers of evidence put down, studied...and completely misunderstood by the voluntarily blind.
For the record: saying that you can't observe fossilization taking place, therefore you can't trust that fossils are real, is not the same as saying "I've never seen/felt a divine presence once in my life but I might as well accept that it's real because gosh, there's all this evidence laying around all adding up to its existence..." Fail. There isn't a shred of evidence for God. Meanwhile, we continue to dig up fossils. Fossils, numbnuts - not rocks.
I'd be perfectly willing to accept the existence of God if you could provide me evidence. Fair's fair. But no one's done it yet.
I'm done with this at least until I get back from school. You are purposely ignoring anything we set in front of you because the second you take any of it into account your own rebuttals hold no water.