The problem of the soul

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Solid, liquid, gas, and plasma are the states of MATTER.

It's still matter regardless of which state it is in.

What I think is tripping you up, Winter, is that plasma states can break down the atomic structure. Hydrogen plasma is almost like a soup of free electrons and protons. But it is still (by definition) matter.

What prevents me from agreeing that plasma is actually "matter" is that it is not a long lasting state of matter, look here:

https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews...matter.cfm

But what about plasma? It’s the most abundant state of matter in the universe, but plasma can’t exist for long under normal terrestrial conditions.

Essentially that's what I meant by "transitional" state: Plasma is a temporary state that superheated matter goes through: that's not "matter" -even if science said so today- but rather a "transitional state into something we didn't yet discover".

The question I would ask myself is this: what happens to matter after turning to plasma? what's the next state?

Simply because plasma doesn’t last long in a terrestrial environment doesn’t preclude it from being matter.

In a very real sense, ALL matter is in a transitional state. But what do you mean by ‘long lasting’? As we’ve agreed, the sun is a big, burning ball of plasma, and it has existed for more than four and a half billion years. It is expected to continue in this state for another five billion years. That’s more than half the current age of the universe. So, none of your silly arsed assertions that plasma isn’t matter seem to hold up.

Every physicist in the world agrees that plasma is matter, but - to you - it isn’t, ‘...even if science said so...’.

Stupid.

Boru