RE: The problem of the soul
August 7, 2021 at 4:00 am
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2021 at 4:16 am by Pat Mustard.)
(August 2, 2021 at 3:43 pm)WinterHold Wrote:(August 2, 2021 at 3:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If souls are electricity in the brain (as you stated earlier) and God has a soul (as you stated just now), and our souls ultimately derive from God’s soul, then God must have a physical brain (electrical currents are a physical manifestation). If God has a physical brain, then God is a physical Being.
Of course, the alternate explanation is that you’re talking out of your arse. Imma go with that.
Boru
God blew only "a part of his soul" into us, not his "whole soul", I believe that's only the part that gives us "consciousness" and "self-awareness" unlike animals.
Nobody knows what the "original, full and unique" soul of God has; a tiny part is electricity which humans have and that's about it for us: we're so small, so dependant, just an instance of a part, while God is the full, capable, whole, perfect.
I wouldn't say God is "physical"; because the rest of his soul is unknown to us: we only know the electrical part that needs a physical medium to be generated.
Winterhold, your anti-science bullshit is getting more desperate, pathetic and stupid with each passing post. I think you should stop digging down.
(August 5, 2021 at 5:04 am)WinterHold Wrote:(August 5, 2021 at 2:50 am)Angrboda Wrote: Plasma isn't non-physical.
Plasma is ionized gas that is super-heated:
https://www.psfc.mit.edu/vision/what_is_plasma
Quote:Plasma is superheated matter – so hot that the electrons are ripped away from the atoms forming an ionized gas. It comprises over 99% of the visible universe. In the night sky, plasma glows in the form of stars, nebulas, and even the auroras that sometimes ripple above the north and south poles. That branch of lightning that cracks the sky is plasma, so are the neon signs along our city streets. And so is our sun, the star that makes life on earth possible.
That doesn't seem "physical" to me, many scientists actually agree with me:
In other words; it's not a "solid,physical" state of matter:
https://education.jlab.org/qa/plasma_01.html
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Quote:[url=http://www.pnl.gov/energyscience/06_99/art2.htm]Plasma is the fourth state of matter. Many places teach that there are three states of matter; solid, liquid and gas, but there are actually four. The fourth is plasma. To put it very simply, a plasma is an ionized gas, a gas into which sufficient energy is provided to free electrons from atoms or molecules and to allow both species, ions and electrons, to coexist. The funny thing about that is, that as far as we know, plasmas are the most common state of matter in the universe. They are even common here on earth. A plasma is a gas that has been energized to the point that some of the electrons break free from, but travel with, their nucleus. Gases can become plasmas in several ways, but all include pumping the gas with energy. A spark in a gas will create a plasma. A hot gas passing through a big spark will turn the gas stream into a plasma that can be useful. Plasma torches like that are used in industry to cut metals. The biggest chunk of plasma you will see is that dear friend to all of us, the sun. The sun's enormous heat rips electrons off the hydrogen and helium molecules that make up the sun. Essentially, the sun, like most stars, is a great big ball of plasma.
More and more stupid. Plasma is a physical medium. Everything that exists is.
(August 6, 2021 at 10:30 am)WinterHold Wrote:(August 6, 2021 at 5:08 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Solid, liquid, gas, and plasma are the states of MATTER.
It's still matter regardless of which state it is in.
What I think is tripping you up, Winter, is that plasma states can break down the atomic structure. Hydrogen plasma is almost like a soup of free electrons and protons. But it is still (by definition) matter.
What prevents me from agreeing that plasma is actually "matter" is that it is not a long lasting state of matter, look here:
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews...matter.cfm
Quote:But what about plasma? It’s the most abundant state of matter in the universe, but plasma can’t exist for long under normal terrestrial conditions.
Essentially that's what I meant by "transitional" state: Plasma is a temporary state that superheated matter goes through: that's not "matter" -even if science said so today- but rather a "transitional state into something we didn't yet discover".
The question I would ask myself is this: what happens to matter after turning to plasma? what's the next state?
On Earth it isn't, idiot. In other environments it is long lasting. Did you not read the bit about it being the most common state of matter?
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