Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 7, 2025, 8:06 am

Poll: What's wrong with theistic beliefs?
This poll is closed.
Are they delusional
40.54%
15 40.54%
Is it an illusion
16.22%
6 16.22%
Are they just plain crazy
10.81%
4 10.81%
something else
32.43%
12 32.43%
Total 37 vote(s) 100%
* You voted for this item. [Show Results]

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Delusion?
#44
RE: Delusion?
(November 11, 2011 at 11:02 am)Rhythm Wrote: (For the record, my ex-wife was a bitch too, and I could crack jokes about her being a she-demon, but that doesn't actually make her a demon, does it? It's flowery langauge. Not exactly equivalent.)

That wasn't my point, though I see how you were misled by my language. I wasn't implying that female demons were being imagined, I was pointing out how massive the errors in reasoning can become as a result of a simple psychological process -- in this case, that of cognitive dissonance -- being iteratively applied towards the same goal (justifying one's feelings and actions in a relationship). It's akin to evolution, wherein distortions in our thinking (mutations) are repeatedly selected for a specific adaptive quality (reinforcing our desired perceptions of ourselves). Just as evolution can create incredibly complex and powerful animals, the psychology of the human animal can evolve monsters. (And that's just at the personal level; I haven't scratched the surface of social processes and the nature of discourse.)

But we don't necessarily have to agree to disagree. You simply have to give me some evidence that religious or theistic thinking is delusional as psychiatrists define delusion, as a systematic distortion of thinking along specific dimensions that does not occur in thinking not related to the delusion.

You have, afaik, provided no evidence that this is the case. Simply declaring it to be a fact, or arguing folk psychologism is insufficient. I may have paid insufficient attention earlier, so if you have given such evidence, please link me to it. I will warn you in advance though, that as a person with schizo-affective disorder, I have suffered delusions for over 40 years, so I have something of an inside track.

[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Delusion? - by tackattack - November 9, 2011 at 5:44 am
RE: Dellusion? - by KichigaiNeko - November 9, 2011 at 5:54 am
RE: Dellusion? - by tackattack - November 9, 2011 at 6:32 am
RE: Dellusion? - by KichigaiNeko - November 9, 2011 at 6:35 am
RE: Dellusion? - by 5thHorseman - November 9, 2011 at 6:53 am
RE: Dellusion? - by fr0d0 - November 9, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: Dellusion? - by Blam! - November 9, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Dellusion? - by fr0d0 - November 10, 2011 at 8:29 am
RE: Dellusion? - by downbeatplumb - November 10, 2011 at 3:03 pm
RE: Dellusion? - by tackattack - November 9, 2011 at 6:56 am
RE: Dellusion? - by 5thHorseman - November 9, 2011 at 7:00 am
RE: Dellusion? - by KichigaiNeko - November 9, 2011 at 7:29 am
RE: Dellusion? - by Kayenneh - November 9, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: Dellusion? - by neverinchurch - November 9, 2011 at 7:53 am
RE: Dellusion? - by Blam! - November 9, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: Dellusion? - by tackattack - November 9, 2011 at 10:08 am
RE: Dellusion? - by Blam! - November 9, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Dellusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2011 at 10:08 am
RE: Dellusion? - by tackattack - November 9, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: Delusion? - by leo-rcc - November 9, 2011 at 10:11 am
RE: Delusion? - by Tiberius - November 9, 2011 at 10:25 am
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2011 at 10:43 am
RE: Delusion? - by Captain Scarlet - November 9, 2011 at 11:18 am
RE: Delusion? - by Welsh cake - November 9, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Faith No More - November 9, 2011 at 6:05 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2011 at 10:25 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Violet - November 9, 2011 at 10:37 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2011 at 10:39 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Violet - November 9, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Erinome - November 9, 2011 at 10:48 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Violet - November 10, 2011 at 3:04 am
RE: Delusion? - by Cyberman - November 10, 2011 at 12:33 am
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 10, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 10, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Violet - November 10, 2011 at 10:35 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2011 at 12:38 am
RE: Delusion? - by 5thHorseman - November 11, 2011 at 11:15 am
RE: Delusion? - by Anomalocaris - November 11, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2011 at 1:59 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 10, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 10, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2011 at 1:49 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2011 at 2:09 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2011 at 2:30 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2011 at 3:21 pm
RE: Delusion? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2011 at 3:26 pm
RE: Delusion? - by Angrboda - November 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  the atheist delusion(who started it or that notion?) Quill01 2 857 July 25, 2022 at 6:54 am
Last Post: Jehanne
  Dawkins writing kid's version of "The God Delusion" - you mad bro? Silver 35 8901 August 2, 2018 at 9:08 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Ok Atheists! I have God Delusion! Catholic_Lady 54 13650 April 14, 2018 at 8:04 am
Last Post: Jehanne
  Thought on this video about "Atheist delusion"? Macoleco 3 1627 October 30, 2017 at 8:56 am
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  The Atheist Delusion Silver 25 6187 October 18, 2016 at 12:15 am
Last Post: Arkilogue
  Religion is a Delusion/Mental Illness z7z 80 20844 May 27, 2015 at 6:11 pm
Last Post: snookerman
  The human brain is under a delusion that it is a mind Blackrook 45 10313 September 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm
Last Post: Anomalocaris
  The God Delusion Documentary CindysRain 29 6858 July 24, 2014 at 11:55 am
Last Post: Amalynne0
  So this came with the copy of the God Delusion I just bought. Mudhammam 19 6258 April 23, 2014 at 11:35 am
Last Post: DarkHorse
  Atheist Delusion DelusionsOfGrand 27 8988 January 22, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Last Post: Edwardo Piet



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)