RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
August 21, 2021 at 2:12 pm
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2021 at 2:21 pm by Mashmont.)
(August 21, 2021 at 1:16 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:(August 21, 2021 at 12:14 pm)Mashmont Wrote: Protecting women means treating them well.Nope, it doesn't. Sorry, but gotta stop your equivocations right here.
Treating people well is not the same as protecting them.
(August 21, 2021 at 12:14 pm)Mashmont Wrote: Of course men need a cocoon by women, and the RCC promotes that as well through marriage.Men and women can't/shouldn't intermix without marriage?
(August 21, 2021 at 12:14 pm)Mashmont Wrote: But I specified women to answer the post about the RCC's treatment of women.Sure,
just like a man needs to be protected later in his life too, presumably when the wife is gone? Like with a cocoon of women? By marriage, as the RCC promotes it? How does the woman protect the man in marriage? Financially, like the husband protects the wife? Why should a woman need financial support in the first place?
(August 21, 2021 at 12:21 pm)Mashmont Wrote: Forgive me for wrapping Marxism, feminism, atheism all together.What does, usually, connect atheism to marxism, for example?
They don't always go together. But I find they usually do.
(August 21, 2021 at 11:09 am)Mashmont Wrote: I can speak for the Catholic Church on this. The Vatican came out very early, 1839, in its denunciation of colonial slavery like was prevalent at that time.Denmark abolished slavery in 1792, being the first country in Europe to do so.
The UK abolished slave trade in the British Empire in 1807.
The UK abolished slavery altogether in 1833.
The Congress of Vienna abolished transatlantic slave trade in 1814/15. That is: 200 European states, cities and other entities, with only the Ottoman Empire missing.
How early do you think the Vatican came out exactly, considering those facts?
What is bad about sex outside of marriage, by the way?
(August 21, 2021 at 1:02 pm)Mashmont Wrote: Biblical slavery is not remotely same as modern colonial slavery. In biblical times, people who could not pay their bills worked for a master until their debt was paid off. It's not a lot different from what today's left says about working at Walmart.You haven't read your bible, have you?
You conveniently ignored the part where the bible specifically tells you where to buy your slaves, that the (non-Jewish slaves) are your property forever (you can pass them down to your children), tells you how much you can beat your slaves without getting punished, and it even tells you a loophole how to trick your fellow Jews into permanent slavery.
Oh, and indentured servitude, as your lame excuse is called, is immoral too. Arguing that your holy book is less immoral than something/someone else.....not really a good promotion, don't you think?
1. In the family context, treating people well and protecting them aren't all that different. Silly to split hairs on that.
2. Again, talking about family situation there, regarding the intermixing. Obviously.
3. Why should an 80-year-old woman need financial support? Hmm. Let's think.
4. I guess what atheism and Marxism have in common is atheism.
5. 1839 was well ahead of the seminal Lincoln Douglas debates and nearly a quarter century before Emancipation Proclamation. Good job Vatican!!
6. Glad you agree biblical slavery was vastly different from modern colonial slavery.
7. What's bad about sex outside marriage? Nothing, if you like broken relationships, implying a commitment that doesn't exist, fatherless children, children who fall into crime, poor single motherhood, women carrying an oversized burden, and perpetuation of more of the same. Hey guys, these time-honored God rules are there for a reason. They WORK.