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How atheists can enjoy religion
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RE: How atheists can enjoy religion
(August 30, 2021 at 12:37 am)Ahriman Wrote: This might be a little abstract, but I would argue all words/concepts are unsupported assertions, until they are argued for. So if you're willing to argue for the idea that there are planets, stars, moons, etc., then those things become real. Likewise, if you're willing to argue for the idea that there are gods, who created planets, stars, moons, etc., then gods become real.

Perhaps gods "become real" to the person doing the arguing, but that isn't necessarily transferable to other people. I've not experienced anything that would give me a sense of gods being real. The Great Red Spot on Jupiter, though, is real to me because I've seen it. Same for the rings of Saturn.

And (subject to the visibility of planets on a particular night) I can point up to a spot in a sky, and say "There's Jupiter, there's Saturn, Mars is over there, and that bright one near the western horizon is Venus. Can't see Mercury tonight because it's really close to the sun at the moment."

Much, much more real to me than gods.
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How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 24, 2021 at 11:13 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by arewethereyet - August 24, 2021 at 11:17 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by arewethereyet - August 24, 2021 at 11:18 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by HappySkeptic - August 24, 2021 at 11:19 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by zwanzig - August 24, 2021 at 11:29 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 24, 2021 at 11:36 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by LadyForCamus - August 24, 2021 at 11:38 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 24, 2021 at 11:43 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ravenshire - August 24, 2021 at 1:44 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 24, 2021 at 1:50 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by vulcanlogician - August 24, 2021 at 2:00 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Spongebob - August 24, 2021 at 2:02 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 24, 2021 at 3:19 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by no one - August 24, 2021 at 11:30 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Brian37 - August 24, 2021 at 11:48 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 24, 2021 at 11:53 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by onlinebiker - August 24, 2021 at 11:33 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Gwaithmir - August 24, 2021 at 11:53 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 24, 2021 at 1:06 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 24, 2021 at 1:40 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Spongebob - August 24, 2021 at 1:44 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Secular Elf - August 24, 2021 at 2:01 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by arewethereyet - August 24, 2021 at 2:09 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by vulcanlogician - August 24, 2021 at 2:16 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Secular Elf - August 24, 2021 at 2:19 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by zwanzig - August 24, 2021 at 2:33 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 24, 2021 at 4:05 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by onlinebiker - August 24, 2021 at 4:27 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Spongebob - August 24, 2021 at 5:25 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by onlinebiker - August 24, 2021 at 5:42 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by WinterHold - August 26, 2021 at 8:06 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 26, 2021 at 8:22 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Fireball - August 27, 2021 at 11:38 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 27, 2021 at 11:02 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by WinterHold - August 27, 2021 at 11:47 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 28, 2021 at 11:46 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by WinterHold - August 29, 2021 at 8:23 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 29, 2021 at 9:50 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by WinterHold - August 30, 2021 at 12:01 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 30, 2021 at 12:26 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 30, 2021 at 12:37 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 30, 2021 at 1:10 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Mister Agenda - August 30, 2021 at 10:33 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 30, 2021 at 11:23 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by WinterHold - August 30, 2021 at 3:13 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Astreja - August 30, 2021 at 9:44 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2021 at 8:33 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Silver - August 26, 2021 at 9:00 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Grand Nudger - August 27, 2021 at 3:34 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 27, 2021 at 5:08 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 27, 2021 at 9:51 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Nay_Sayer - August 27, 2021 at 10:28 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 27, 2021 at 10:35 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by onlinebiker - August 28, 2021 at 7:13 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Grand Nudger - August 27, 2021 at 11:53 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Valkyrie - August 28, 2021 at 5:35 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 28, 2021 at 6:31 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Valkyrie - August 28, 2021 at 6:49 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by vulcanlogician - August 28, 2021 at 9:24 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 28, 2021 at 6:57 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Valkyrie - August 28, 2021 at 6:59 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Gwaithmir - August 28, 2021 at 8:46 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Spongebob - August 28, 2021 at 9:57 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 28, 2021 at 8:12 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Spongebob - August 28, 2021 at 8:55 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 29, 2021 at 6:24 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 28, 2021 at 2:09 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 28, 2021 at 6:58 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by no one - August 28, 2021 at 8:31 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by purplepurpose - August 29, 2021 at 1:20 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 29, 2021 at 1:22 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 29, 2021 at 6:06 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 30, 2021 at 8:21 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2021 at 3:15 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 30, 2021 at 3:55 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by vulcanlogician - August 30, 2021 at 3:57 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by no one - August 30, 2021 at 4:00 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Gwaithmir - August 30, 2021 at 4:44 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2021 at 4:03 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 30, 2021 at 4:10 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by arewethereyet - August 30, 2021 at 4:08 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by HappySkeptic - August 30, 2021 at 8:12 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 30, 2021 at 10:22 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by HappySkeptic - August 31, 2021 at 12:24 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 31, 2021 at 7:16 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 31, 2021 at 7:38 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Spongebob - August 31, 2021 at 8:26 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 30, 2021 at 10:03 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Silver - August 30, 2021 at 10:31 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2021 at 9:31 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 31, 2021 at 9:56 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by arewethereyet - August 31, 2021 at 10:19 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 31, 2021 at 10:35 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 31, 2021 at 10:40 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 31, 2021 at 10:56 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 31, 2021 at 11:04 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Ahriman - August 31, 2021 at 11:14 am
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by brewer - August 31, 2021 at 12:24 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by HappySkeptic - August 31, 2021 at 12:26 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2021 at 12:21 pm
RE: How atheists can enjoy religion - by Todji812 - September 5, 2021 at 7:22 pm

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