RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 4, 2021 at 3:12 am
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2021 at 3:17 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Consider a religious belief both that the environment can be harmed, and should not be harmed. I don't mean changed or modified, harmed in a morally important sense. That it is, thus, wrong to harm the environment as it is wrong to harm a person.
We might point out that the environment doesn't hurt. It doesn't experience the relevant pain or suffering to draw similar conclusions about the moral import of our relationship with it. We might even suggest that it's not wrong to do those things to the environment this person is concerned with, so long as it doesn't harm people. That there is no sacred tree, only a compromise between firewood and the loss of shade. We might think..in short, that they're wrong. But do we also contend that to believe this they must be delusional?
I mean, the tldr version is going to be that the vast majority of religious beliefs both real and hypothetical won't be or need be premised on gods, or on anything anyone would strenuously insist was delusional. It's a particularly sorry set of religions that relies on delusional thinking, irrational propositions, and godidits.
We might point out that the environment doesn't hurt. It doesn't experience the relevant pain or suffering to draw similar conclusions about the moral import of our relationship with it. We might even suggest that it's not wrong to do those things to the environment this person is concerned with, so long as it doesn't harm people. That there is no sacred tree, only a compromise between firewood and the loss of shade. We might think..in short, that they're wrong. But do we also contend that to believe this they must be delusional?
I mean, the tldr version is going to be that the vast majority of religious beliefs both real and hypothetical won't be or need be premised on gods, or on anything anyone would strenuously insist was delusional. It's a particularly sorry set of religions that relies on delusional thinking, irrational propositions, and godidits.
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