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Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
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RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
(October 14, 2021 at 9:54 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: and I find that word set as confusing. What’s a personal god. What is not a personal god.
So, it is not anthropomorphic, meaning it does not have cute eyeballs and big ears like Mickey Mouse.
Personal and anthropomorphic carry the same connotations, you could say that the latter is a stronger claim to the attributes than the former.  

Personal gods are, simply put, person-like.  The christian god, for example.  Laying aside the fact that they believe their god literally walked the earth as a man....a stronger claim than either descriptor - it's said to have emotions and desires.  Things it likes.  A shitlist.  Regrets.  A plan.  It may not be human, but it's a person and relates to us in that way.

Theism is the belief in a divine person who intervenes. Deism the belief in a divine person who does not intervene. Polytheism the belief in many divine persons who intervene. Pantheism the belief in a divine non person that intervenes (but only by fiat..as it's incapable of not intervening, subtle distinction there).

The type of god that most people will be familiar with today is mono/heno/polytheist.

Quote:That’s nice, but I want to know what their god is.
Does it think? Does it have feelings? What feeling does it have? Is it curious?
Yes, we think, therefore god thinks. We have feelings, therefore god has feelings. We possess curiosity, therefore god possesses curiosity. Whatever attribute everything in total has, god also has, the pantheist god is the sum of all things, but not greater than that (that would be a panentheistic god).

The short version of a long story is that...no, pantheism and atheism are not the same thing, one set thinks that everything is the divine x, the other, that there are no divine x's. We can credit spinoza for the confusion. If you wanted to do a deep dive, you should ping vulcanlogician.
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RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Duty - March 14, 2021 at 12:58 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Seax - March 19, 2021 at 12:53 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 14, 2021 at 10:18 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 18, 2021 at 3:38 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 19, 2021 at 5:18 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 20, 2021 at 2:05 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 21, 2021 at 7:54 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 22, 2021 at 2:37 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 23, 2021 at 1:29 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 22, 2021 at 8:43 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Angrboda - November 23, 2021 at 10:04 am

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