Oakland School Shooting

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

For the reason given above. If you’ve cited the law correctly, then ANYTIME a gun is stolen from a locked safe, the owner isn’t culpable. If you were to give someone - a fifteen year old son, say - the combination and he gets your gun and shots three people, you’re not culpable. Why? Because the gun was stolen from a locked safe.

I’m prepared to amend my position if your law has caveats which cover that scenario.

Boru

Ok.. I see what you are saying. No. The gun owner is responsible for the gun' s use in any case of someone who is given access to the weapon.

Potentally if I loan you ( an adult allowed guns)  to go hunting - and you go off on a nut - I could be held criminally and civilly accountable. I don' t know of any such criminal cases - but there was a civil case some years back... If I give you access to the gun safevand you take the gun - it is not stolen.


The exemption is for if the gun is STOLEN - implying someone who does not have access to the gun safe.


This is a clear case of negligence.....

If he took the gun without his father’s permission or knowledge, it was stolen - access to the safe seems immaterial. If you have a houseguest and one night they walk off with your TV, they’ve stolen it even though they had your permission to be in the house and access to your television.

Boru