Oakland School Shooting

[Brian37]

I don't give one shit about camera angles. That little snot had self entitled parents that treated guns like a Christmas stocking stuffer and neither the store or makers gave one shit that it ended up in his hands, much less the parents.

The parents are indeed assholes - but you blaming the gun shop is just stupid.

They made a legal sale. If you think the parents told a shop owner they were giving their 15 year old a Sig for a present - I guarantee the owner would have shut down the sale.

ATF has been known to sting shops with straw purchases - and no owner will risk his livelyhood over one gun sale. I have seen it with my own eyes on more than one occasion - the owner taking the 4473- tearing it up - and telling the prospective buyer to leave the shop.

You have not seen contrary

Holy short term memory Batman! In a perfect world I'd agree with you. But this shit happens 100s of times a day. Not just school shootings, but suicides and domestic violence and accidental. 

You suffer the same stupid logic as to why Nadar was vilified for advocating for better car technology such as seat belts and crumple zones. 

You, "The parents were wrong"

Me, "No shit Sherlock" 

But that does not change ease of access. Not just in the home, but in that the store and makers didn't give a fuck where their products ended up. Just like big tobacco didn't give a fuck that I am a smoker.

America is addicted to guns, why? Because humans are stupid. Why is it other western nations that allow gun ownership don't have the level of firearm violence we do?

I know damned well reading all your prior posts on this subject, that if you owned a gun store, knowing me, and I walked in, you would deny me a buy. Why is that? I know why. Because you don't want to admit that there are people who should not own firearms. These parents were self entitled assholes, otherwise why the text "Just don't get caught"? 


I am lucky enough to be self aware. I don't want a firearm. The biggest reason is that I suffer from anxiety and depression. I look back at my life, growing up, my late adoptive father had guns. I don't remember if I was 5 or 6, maybe even 7. My late father got drunk off his ass, and shot his 38 twice with me in the room. I have late 1800s antique music box with a bullet hole, and a lowboy with a bullet hole in it. If it were not for my mom grabbing me and fleeing out of the house, I might not be here. 

So I could give a shit less about your pontifications about how  public safety is oppressing you.

Sorry, it isn't enough just to stop at blaming the parents.