RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 6, 2022 at 6:17 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2022 at 6:19 pm by pocaracas.)
(March 6, 2022 at 11:49 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:(March 6, 2022 at 11:38 am)pocaracas Wrote: I must have not paid enough attention... What did Ukraine do to push Russia into invading it?
The US pushed Russia into invading Ukraine by making it clear Ukraine joining the nato can mean american medium and intermediate rate nuclear weapons can be deployed to Ukraine, which largely nullifies Russia’s nuclear deterrence by allow a strike to hit Moscow and Russian nuclear sites with less than 4-5 minutes of warning.
Yeah... I heard that weak sauce excuse, but it makes no sense.
Why is Russia allowed to be so devastated by the potential for weapons near its borders, while... it has those same or worse weapons at the ready to strike anywhere in Europe?
If it looks like a double standard, it's because it is.
You can's accuse, judge and execute others of wrongdoing something that you yourself are doing.
This reason also defies logic considering how Estonia Latvia and Lithuania are NATO members and have borders with Russia and are somewhat closer to the two larger Russian cities (maybe there is a spot in Ukraine that is closer to Moscow than any of these, but not by much).
So... how did Ukraine push Russia into invading it?
(March 6, 2022 at 3:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(March 6, 2022 at 2:57 pm)Nomad Wrote: It existed. That's all the excuse Putain needed.
Ukraine does not pose an existential threat to Russia, and hasn’t since it got rid of its nukes. The possibility of Ukraine joining NATO and getting nukes again is not an existential threat. If Ukraine does join NATO and gets nukes at some point, it would still not necessarily be an existential threat, as the tactical weapons they are likely to be supplied with would be neither numerous enough or powerful enough to destroy Russia.
Putin using that possibility for the invasion is laughable, as the are already State actors with the capability of destroying Russia (but at a nightmarishly high cost). If that concern was legitimate, Putin would have attacked the US, France, Great Britain, China or India.
Boru
Don't forget Pakistan.
How can Putin trust those who harboured the Taliban who once got some assistance from the US to fight against Russian forces when Afghanistan was invaded?