RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
July 20, 2022 at 5:15 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2022 at 5:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 20, 2022 at 5:05 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:Who said anything about belief in god being motivated solely by fear and oppression? I agreed..as you pointed out, that in very religious societies, dissenting expressions are relatively rare. That, my cognitively impaired muslim friend, is a product of fear and repression. Think about that the next time you;re hanging out with your fellow islamists. Some of the stuff you think they believe in, with you. and stuff they probably even said they -did- believe..same as you? They're lying. To your face.(July 20, 2022 at 2:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's true that the more murderous and repressive an area was at any given time, public expressions of dissenting viewpoints (about anything) were relatively rare. A weird flex, but true.
Do I need to mention that the majority of the world population today is religious, including in highly developed countries like the U.S. ? If belief in God were solely motivated by fear and repression, you wouldn't have many believers nowadays in these countries.
Quote:I am yet to read, at least once in my life, a sound argument for God or the afterlife not existing. What we do know for sure is that if a just God exists, an afterlife definitely exists. You're clearly asserting that there are no gods, the burden of proof is on you now.Another absurd non sequitur. Sure, though, insomuch as I would claim that no gods exist the burden would be on me to have a suitable demonstrate of that. It's been demonstrated to my satisfaction, which might explain why I consider the matter settled, huh?
Quote:Objecting to religion on the grounds that it benefits priests is an appeal to consequences, a fallacy.Then I guess it's a good thing that's not what cavarka did?
Quote:I got to tell you, I find it really hard to believe, that you were never inclined to believe in some sort of higher power, or that you never wished there is a very powerful being who can redress all the forms of injustice. I can understand if you found christianity repelling or implausible, or if you thought this religion represents God's intentions.Good luck with finding it hard to believe that I was never a theist. You understand why I find christianity repelling, and you probably could understand why I find islam repelling. But you're too busy doubting that I am what I am, or that I would know that better than you. Crank.
Beliefs like the resurrection and the original sin surely repelled many many people. The idea that a God will sacrifice himself, then raise himself from the dead so that we, his creation, can be saved, has no plausibility whatsoever. The idea that there is a Father, a Son, a Holy Spirit, and that they cannot exist without one another, resembles the weird fantasies people read in Japanese manga, it's obviously contrived and made up- with all due respect, ofc, to any christian who reads this. Nontrinitarianism is clearly more plausible, I just don't understand why it's not the mainstream christian doctrine.
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