RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
July 20, 2022 at 5:53 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2022 at 6:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 20, 2022 at 5:46 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: I don't really follow. The United States is a fairly religious society and, at the same time, doesn't impose any religion nor persecutes atheists, it seems that basic facts about your own country invalidate your bold claim here.You don't know much about our history, or even the present reality. Get this. Magats. Trump waiving white supremacists..and just generally the part of america that is religious...prefer you islamists, to us...and they think you should all be dead and buried in the sand (preferably after you kill all the jews and make jesus come home - but that's negotiable, we can always find someone else to nuke isreal). You know something you should absolutely not say if you ever want to hold public office? That you're an atheist. Might not want to tell your fam either, get disowned.
Quote:The criteria you set for your personal satisfaction must be really low, then. And I am not sure why you you think I'm committing a non sequitur, talk about cognitive impairment.Low? Not at all, but it hardly matters, as whatever satisfies me obviously does not satisfy you in the same way even if my standards were much higher (which, btw, they certainly are).
In any case, I think you would literally change world history if the argument you take yourself to have, is sound.
In any case, the non seq is that if a benevolent god existed, then there must be an afterlife.
Quote:Wishing that some religious claims were true isn't equivalent to being a theist. I am sure you said once that you believed in some sort of afterlife or didn't exclude its possibility, this gives you something in common with theists, at least.All sort of religious claims might be true or wished to be true, but theism, is not a religion.... it's a belief in a personal and intervening god characteristic of some religions.
Sure, I believe in some sort of afterlife - but none that you would recognize as an afterlife. I have many things in common with many theists. I also have a penis. And? Wrap your head around this so we can start some conversation, any conversation, in a moment of unfiltered understanding and agreement. I have never believed in gods. That's just a fact, a true statement of what is and what has been - about me. You can parse it any way you want, that I'm wrong about it or whatever - it's still a fact about me...and..despite whatever else you may believe or how wrong you think it is, there's no reason to assume that it wasn't a fact, likewise, for many many people through all these long years and generations. Isn't there something that alot of your own peers might believe in that never really took root in you?
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