RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
July 21, 2022 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 21, 2022 at 3:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 21, 2022 at 2:00 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:There you go, and it only took a few posts to realize that arguing that point with me made you look like an idiot. Progress.(July 20, 2022 at 6:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I doubt it would be productive. The simple fact that I've never believed in gods was immediately apprehended by you as a controversial premise, and you tried to double down on that.
I have no problem accepting that you personally never believed.
Quote:But you asserting that there are no gods, no afterlife, is a different issue.Well..sure. Once upon a time I didn't know shit. I was an atheist before I even knew what my own name was, after all.
Quote:In other words, the two assertions:Yeah, there's a difference between belief and knowledge...that seems to have been made pretty clear throughout this thread. You think that I can't make a claim to knowledge about your gods. But me..I'm perfectly comfortable doing exactly that.
"I believe there is no god/no afterlife"
"There is no god/no afterlife"
are very different. One of them is a mundane statement abour personal belief (obviously unjustified here), the other one is a sweeping statement that nobody managed to prove in the history of philosophy.
Quote:I doubt you're taking this seriously, maybe you're confusing this argument with something else. It clearly follows from God being benevolent that he will redress injustice, hence the afterlife. This is probably the simplest argument in theism that I know of, if we can't agree even on that, I doubt we will ever make progress in this kind of discussions.Doesn't follow. There are any number of ways that a god, if it did exist, and if it did want to redress injustice, could redress injustice...and...to put a superfine point on it...your silly afterlife seems to be an injustice machine, to me.
Quote:That's more like an afterdeath, not an afterlife. But thank you for reminding us that our bodies will decompose after death, captain obvious.Sure, I don't mind if you call it an afterdeath..though, with respect to living on in memory..it's not really clear that there's a significant difference between that and how we actually exist in life. I'm a collection of my own memories before I die. Decomposition is beautiful, and amazing. You know, if I believed in benovelent gods, decomposition would be a go-to example for me - but I like to grow things..so it may not do for you what it does for me.
Quote:This gratuitous slur we often read about the orthodox conception of the afterlife, shows that atheists have a very distorted view of sex and bodily pleasures. I guess religious people are no longer the ones who view them as filthy.Yep, that's it. It's clear, particularly compared to islamists, that atheists have a distorted view of sex and bodily pleasure. I think we see that all over the globe, obviously. Why can't we prudish westerners be more like the lovable not at all concerning horndogs you think you are?
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