(November 3, 2022 at 2:43 pm)rlp21858 Wrote: Boru: i believe it's true that many that call themselves Christians do malignant things but i believe their actions are the result of fear and doubt. fear and doubt are cancerous; the Bible speaks against these things and malignity.
i think that much of the belief that what is called "God" is evil has to do with the belief that it involves giving man no freedom or choice in deciding his own outcome. the tone of Christianity is that God created all things but did so for them to be used for a certain purpose, and damnation comes from a perversion of that intended use. but we've probably all heard of the "free will" that God has given man, and i believe we can see the working of it in that man, who God created, has the ability to choose good or evil.
as for the Bible, i believe your perspective is an interpretation of the verses involving damnation, which i understand. i think many who follow Christianity have a fear involving this: predestination is a banned topic of discussion on many Christian sites, for example. but i dont believe this interpretation is of God. remember the Bible says that God is above all, through all, and in us all: with so many possible workings, we have to be careful how we interpret. are there any particular verses that made you conclude that God made man to damn him?
The Bible also speaks approvingly of woman as property and the spoils of war. The Bible speaks approvingly of the happiness caused by murdering the children of your enemies. The Bible speaks approvingly of rape, incest, genocide, etc. These are not interpretations, they are what the Bible says. How does this not qualify as malignancy?
As for the Bible creating man in order to damn him, Genesis chapter 3 is pretty clear. God knew that the serpent was going to tempt Eve, knew that Eve was going to eat the fruit, and knew that Adam would follow suit.
As for God deceiving people in order to damn them, 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12. God deliberately deluded people to prevent them from being saved.
Some God you’ve got there, mate.
Boru
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