RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
November 7, 2022 at 2:19 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2022 at 2:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think we may have found at least one source of disconnect. It's true that stalin was a peice of shit and we helped keep him propped up with that aid, but if the soviet union had been ruled by a decent person who wasnt..lets say a zelensky type..for shits and giggles..they'd have still needed that assistance.
I think I hit on a good proposal. We can abandon ukraine to a contemporary hitler/stalin just as soon as we toss 180b at them? Gives them a chance, eh? Same chance we gave russia, for all the good that did ukraine....
I just don't understand why we seem to be told that we have to abandon a commitment to human life and human rights....for the cause of human life and human rights? Why we have so many people positing some terrible thing as though it were difficult to stop, or even inevitable, and that this turns into an argument -against- trying our best to prevent it? That we have to describe a pretty cut and dry example of being on the right side of a thing..for a change... as some dirty proxy war. It's bonkers, to me.
I think I hit on a good proposal. We can abandon ukraine to a contemporary hitler/stalin just as soon as we toss 180b at them? Gives them a chance, eh? Same chance we gave russia, for all the good that did ukraine....
I just don't understand why we seem to be told that we have to abandon a commitment to human life and human rights....for the cause of human life and human rights? Why we have so many people positing some terrible thing as though it were difficult to stop, or even inevitable, and that this turns into an argument -against- trying our best to prevent it? That we have to describe a pretty cut and dry example of being on the right side of a thing..for a change... as some dirty proxy war. It's bonkers, to me.
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