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A simple argument against God
RE: A simple argument against God
(December 13, 2022 at 10:18 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(December 9, 2022 at 2:14 pm)Lek Wrote: I see God as being infinite existence.  He is the supreme consciousness. Everything that exists is a manifestation of God. We all are the essence of God. Think of a finger on your body. It is part of your body, but not the whole body. God is all and we are in God. That's just my image of God. We can know his presence,  but at the same time,  not understand him.

Thanks, Lek. This doesn't sound like the version of God who floods the earth, fathers a son, and issues final trumps. Is there any difference between the God you believe in and the God of pantheism (a doctrine which identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God)?

I know this is an old post, but i have a problem with that definition, like most definitions of god it only covers one answer to one aspect of god, while at the same time introducing other problems.

Firstly we are designed (it is said) to have free will, what parts of a body have free will ? Wouldn't us being part of a body mean the head (Christ) was sinning ?

Second God wants a intellectual relationship with us, so we can reason with him (Isaiah 1:18) and numerous other passages where god talks to people. I really don't understand Christians when they say effectively that their god wants a close, intimate loving relationship with them, while saying at the same time we cannot understand his mind or ways.. Wouldn't a god if he wanted company and companionship create creatures who did understand him and could talk on his level ? It's like me having unlimited power to be able to create a creature to have a loving relationship with, creating a gnat, then punish it for it's misunderstanding ways !

Thirdly, How does a finger 'know' the presence of the brain that controls it ?

We kinda understand what you are trying to say, but it's a very strained analogy.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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A simple argument against God - by Disagreeable - November 29, 2022 at 11:44 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Mister Agenda - November 29, 2022 at 11:49 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by tackattack - November 29, 2022 at 11:58 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Fake Messiah - November 29, 2022 at 12:20 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - November 29, 2022 at 12:34 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Simon Moon - December 2, 2022 at 7:53 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by zebo-the-fat - November 29, 2022 at 12:08 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Disagreeable - November 29, 2022 at 12:11 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 29, 2022 at 2:43 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - November 29, 2022 at 2:50 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by LadyForCamus - December 2, 2022 at 12:43 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Disagreeable - December 2, 2022 at 2:37 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Thumpalumpacus - December 2, 2022 at 4:35 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Disagreeable - December 6, 2022 at 12:44 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Thumpalumpacus - December 6, 2022 at 7:02 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by tackattack - November 29, 2022 at 12:28 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by LinuxGal - December 3, 2022 at 2:23 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by LinuxGal - November 29, 2022 at 5:51 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Objectivist - November 29, 2022 at 11:17 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Gwaithmir - November 30, 2022 at 10:43 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Objectivist - November 30, 2022 at 9:43 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Peebothuhlu - November 30, 2022 at 7:09 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by tackattack - December 2, 2022 at 12:18 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Fake Messiah - December 2, 2022 at 12:41 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by tackattack - December 6, 2022 at 12:49 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Angrboda - December 2, 2022 at 1:25 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 2, 2022 at 2:34 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Aegon - December 2, 2022 at 1:19 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - December 2, 2022 at 3:14 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 2, 2022 at 5:39 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 3, 2022 at 10:48 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by GUBU - December 5, 2022 at 3:14 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ranjr - December 3, 2022 at 10:52 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 3, 2022 at 10:56 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ranjr - December 3, 2022 at 10:58 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 3, 2022 at 11:01 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ranjr - December 3, 2022 at 11:04 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 3, 2022 at 11:11 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ranjr - December 3, 2022 at 11:19 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 3, 2022 at 11:27 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ranjr - December 3, 2022 at 11:29 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 3, 2022 at 11:40 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 3, 2022 at 11:40 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ranjr - December 3, 2022 at 11:50 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 3, 2022 at 11:50 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 4, 2022 at 12:46 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Gwaithmir - December 4, 2022 at 8:17 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 4, 2022 at 12:08 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ranjr - December 4, 2022 at 12:22 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Angrboda - December 4, 2022 at 12:18 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by snowtracks - December 4, 2022 at 3:05 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by GUBU - December 5, 2022 at 3:16 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 5, 2022 at 12:06 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by GUBU - December 9, 2022 at 2:45 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Simon Moon - December 5, 2022 at 12:27 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by snowtracks - December 5, 2022 at 11:33 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Objectivist - December 7, 2022 at 10:28 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 7, 2022 at 10:47 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 7, 2022 at 10:51 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 4, 2022 at 3:11 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 4, 2022 at 1:24 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by arewethereyet - December 4, 2022 at 1:41 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by zebo-the-fat - December 4, 2022 at 2:57 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 4, 2022 at 2:06 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2022 at 2:08 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 5, 2022 at 3:57 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2022 at 9:03 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 5, 2022 at 11:36 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2022 at 12:51 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by tackattack - December 7, 2022 at 11:51 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 7, 2022 at 11:25 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 8, 2022 at 7:08 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 8, 2022 at 9:50 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by h4ym4n - December 8, 2022 at 10:29 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 8, 2022 at 10:35 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Gwaithmir - December 9, 2022 at 9:03 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 9, 2022 at 1:55 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Gwaithmir - December 10, 2022 at 8:18 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by GUBU - December 9, 2022 at 2:57 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 9, 2022 at 3:12 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 8, 2022 at 9:57 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 8, 2022 at 10:00 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Mister Agenda - December 8, 2022 at 10:24 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 8, 2022 at 2:03 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Fake Messiah - December 9, 2022 at 1:27 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2022 at 4:46 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 9, 2022 at 9:23 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Mister Agenda - December 9, 2022 at 11:57 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 9, 2022 at 2:14 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2022 at 2:31 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 9, 2022 at 3:56 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by HappySkeptic - December 9, 2022 at 4:11 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2022 at 4:16 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 9, 2022 at 5:18 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 9, 2022 at 7:44 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 10, 2022 at 1:30 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 10, 2022 at 1:41 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 10, 2022 at 1:59 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 10, 2022 at 2:59 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 10, 2022 at 3:06 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 10, 2022 at 5:36 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 10, 2022 at 3:05 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by LinuxGal - December 9, 2022 at 2:55 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Angrboda - December 9, 2022 at 4:11 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Mister Agenda - December 13, 2022 at 10:18 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by possibletarian - December 29, 2022 at 5:51 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by HappySkeptic - December 8, 2022 at 5:05 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 8, 2022 at 5:46 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by HappySkeptic - December 8, 2022 at 5:51 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Mister Agenda - December 9, 2022 at 11:58 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 8, 2022 at 5:49 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 8, 2022 at 7:15 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 8, 2022 at 7:16 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by h4ym4n - December 8, 2022 at 8:15 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by arewethereyet - December 8, 2022 at 9:47 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by h4ym4n - December 10, 2022 at 8:27 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 10, 2022 at 10:34 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Paleophyte - December 11, 2022 at 1:52 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 11, 2022 at 3:48 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Ahriman - December 11, 2022 at 3:50 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Mister Agenda - December 29, 2022 at 11:59 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by LinuxGal - December 8, 2022 at 9:33 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Angrboda - December 8, 2022 at 7:28 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 9, 2022 at 9:22 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 9, 2022 at 9:18 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - December 9, 2022 at 3:28 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Angrboda - December 9, 2022 at 4:13 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - December 9, 2022 at 4:19 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 9, 2022 at 5:20 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by LinuxGal - December 10, 2022 at 8:26 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 9, 2022 at 5:20 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 9, 2022 at 5:21 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 9, 2022 at 5:36 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 9, 2022 at 5:37 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 9, 2022 at 8:01 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by LinuxGal - December 10, 2022 at 8:54 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 10, 2022 at 1:37 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 10, 2022 at 3:08 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 10, 2022 at 4:40 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 10, 2022 at 7:44 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 11, 2022 at 3:33 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Lek - December 11, 2022 at 3:50 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 10, 2022 at 8:09 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 10, 2022 at 8:11 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by Jehanne - December 10, 2022 at 10:45 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 11, 2022 at 9:00 am
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 11, 2022 at 3:49 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 11, 2022 at 3:59 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Architect Of Fate - December 11, 2022 at 3:59 pm
RE: A simple argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2022 at 10:52 pm

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